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    I think that there are probably quite a large number of groups that are trying to control things.

    The thing is, stochastic chaos and multiple groups working in concert, in the same general direction, and even at cross-purposes greatly affects their ability to create lasting change that matters (even if only for them).

    As such, for any one issue that is “progressing”, there is likely one or more groups working successfully in that direction combined with other groups that are either inadvertently affecting the results, or succeeding or failing to oppose that direction to various degrees.

    There are likely vanishingly few examples of a single group attempting to affect a significant issue unopposed.

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        Anyone living with other people is less free than they would be alone, because their actions would only affect themselves. Nobody who lives somewhere that has a deli is totally and completely free, which is what the lyrics are poking fun at.

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    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29081831/

    In the present contribution, we examine the link between societal crisis situations and belief in conspiracy theories. Contrary to common assumptions, belief in conspiracy theories has been prevalent throughout human history. We first illustrate historical incidents suggesting that societal crisis situations-defined as impactful and rapid societal change that calls established power structures, norms of conduct, or even the existence of specific people or groups into question-have stimulated belief in conspiracy theories. We then review the psychological literature to explain why this is the case. Evidence suggests that the aversive feelings that people experience when in crisis-fear, uncertainty, and the feeling of being out of control-stimulate a motivation to make sense of the situation, increasing the likelihood of perceiving conspiracies in social situations. We then explain that after being formed, conspiracy theories can become historical narratives that may spread through cultural transmission. We conclude that conspiracy theories originate particularly in crisis situations and may form the basis for how people subsequently remember and mentally represent a historical event.

    • I’m lazy so asked ChatGPT to ELI5 TLDR:

      The article says when big problems happen, some people believe in secret plans (conspiracy theories). This happens because they feel scared or unsure. These ideas can change how people remember things.

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    The universe doesn’t care about us. It will continue regardless of our actions.

    I find it both terrifying and comforting.

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      How would a universe care? A hug from a distant comet? 😊

      Is the eqanimous silence really absence of caring?

      Look closer into that comforting silence, you might be surprised.

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    Have you heard of synarchy? An actually secret society controls the world via so-called secret societies (the ones you’ve probably heard of), even those with seemingly contradictory goals. Of course they’re so secretive that you’ve never heard of them.

    Just kidding I’m paraphrasing a conspiracy nut from Foucault’s Pendulum (good read, but very Noun heavy).___

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    We only have one rudder and it’s the capitalists at the helm.

    The only direction that boat can go is “more profit!” even if the waters that leads us to are literally boiling. :/

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      No. Capitalists aren’t an individual. You can’t apply individual logic to them because they fundamentally behave differently. They go for “more profit” because of simple motivations and fundamental limits of perception.

      Saying they’re at the rudder is like saying maggots purposefully decompose a carcass. They do decompose it, but little intelligence or coordination was involved, other organisms also contribute, and they’re all just living life. The actions that send us into boiling water weren’t done to move the ship.

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        It’s the plural of a capitalist, or “they.” They act as a collective and their singular drive of “more profit” collectively are what “hold the rudder” (lobbying, bribing, funding fraudulent scientific studies, etc…) like the collective action of the maggots decompose the body. Maybe one maggot isn’t trying to decay the whole thing, but it is the result of their collective action.

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          The result might look similar to steering, but not only is there no single steering rudder, capitalists don’t monopolize all of them. The result being the same might incentivize ignoring the truth, but it does matter. If the model has deficiencies, extrapolated inferences can lead you astray. In this situation it’s accurate, but in other situations it might not be.

          The net effect of capitalist behavior moves us one way, but other forces are at play. With the move away from neoliberalism and the rise of nationalism, capitalism might not be the net force in the near future.

          Fascism doesn’t primarily serve capitalist interests, but capitalists believe it serves them better than social democracy. However, capitalists are dead wrong because they are human, just like everyone else. Nationalism, religion, and culture are essential to the equation. Capitalists can exploit social phenomenon, but they don’t control them, no matter how much lobbying or propaganda they use.

          They don’t hold the rudder. They push it, but don’t monopolize it.

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      “nothing matters” is the tool i use when it’s the weekend and i’m struggling to enjoy it because i’m busy worrying about my job come Monday. but then i walk anyone else through the logic and they tell me it’s depressing and that i shouldn’t tell anyone else what i just told them. so, cheers to the enlightened few 🥂

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    Nobody is in control of the world but some very few people have a lot of influence over all of us.

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    Yeah I had a similar epiphany that I find to be simultaneously comforting on an individual level and unsettling at a macro level.

    Nobody knows what they are doing.