Currently I’ve got a RPi4 without Coral, running Frigate with 2 cams, HA, Paperless, Photoview and Qbittorrent. This works well but maxes out the RPi4. As I want to add Immich and more cams, I have to upgrade. Budget allows for either a USB Coral with the existing RPi4 or buy a secondhand HP Prodesk 600 g4 with Intel 8th gen. According to Frigate I can use Openvino for object detection. Otherwise, I could add a Coral mini pcie, with a mini pcie to pcie adapter. But that stretches the budget. Besides frigate the HP should be able to run the rest.

Any thoughts?

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Don’t go for the Raspberry pi. It isn’t going have good performance and isn’t upgradable in the least.

    • sylverstream@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Okay, good to know. Then I wouldn’t need an 8th gen, a 4th gen with a Coral pcie should be better I believe. Much cheaper too.

  • WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    I had a lot of freezing when I was using immich on my RPi4. May be due to ram constraints. I moved to a 7 8 year old PC that I had lying around. It’s less finicky than a Pi4.

    I would advise you to go with HP and not RPi

    • sylverstream@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Thanks, HP it will be. When comparing Intel gens, there isn’t a massive difference between 4th and 8th gen, except the openvino detection which only works on 8th. But I can get a 4th gen for 25% of the price of a 8th gen.

      • Technikus5@feddit.deEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I’d also highly recommend the proper PC, Immich can get pretty RAM-hungry if you use the ML functions, for me that has actually caused crashes before. Granted, that was while importing roughly 20k Assets (200GB) from a Google photos takeout, but it’s still probably better to be prepared.

        • sylverstream@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          Thanks for the insights. I’m planning to import about 1.2Tb of photos… So RAM is most important? What about Intel gen? I’ve compared 4th and 8th gen in terms of cpu speed and 4th still scores well. Depends of course on exact cpu. 4th gen can be bought here for about a 5th of the price of an 8th…

          • Technikus5@feddit.deEnglish
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            10 months ago

            It shouldn’t really scale above a certain point, it’s just that if you import a lot of pictures all at once (in my case with immich-go, as mentioned from a Google photos takeout), all the ML-Tasks (facial recognition, search tagging) together with the normal tasks (thumbnail extraction, video transcoding) can suddenly increase the ram usage from in my case normally 1-2gb to around 6, which even on an 8gb raspi could get a little tight. But for example even just 16gb in the HP should be enough, assuming you don’t have a bunch of other stuff clogging up your RAM. As for the CPU, I’m not too sure tbh, I’m using a Ryzen 5 5600G, which can handle everything that’s running on my server with ease. I think the only significant downside you’d have here going with 4th gen is power efficiency. I still have an i7 6850K (OCd to 4.3GHz) in my main PC, and that thing uses a couple hundred watts when fully loaded, compared to my Ryzens 65W or so. If you’re just going for an i5 or i3 with the fourth gen that’s probably not gonna matter too much, but the performance probably also won’t be amazing at the same time.

  • b1g_bake@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    I personally graduated from a Rpi3b to an Intel NUC years ago and never looked back. Real RAM slots and Storage options internally and you can get as nice a processor as your budget allows. So my vote is to move to the SFF PC and let your Pi stick around for other projects.

    • sylverstream@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Thanks for your insights. Thought about a NUC as well, but AFAIK it doesn’t have pcie slots? So I won’t be able to install eg a graphics card or pcie coral?

      • b1g_bake@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I wouldn’t go NUC if you need a PCIe slot. The HP you were talking about would fit the bill though.

        I believe they make a Coral that fits where the wifi chip goes too. As long as you are ok ditching the wifi/bt functionality for a TPU. For a server doing image processing that’s almost a no-brainer to me.

        • sylverstream@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Interesting re the wifi chip, as all posts I’ve found said it only works for a wifi card. Do you have a source for that?

          Yeah, no wifi is no problem. It’ll be connected via cable

  • Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyzBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

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    HA Home Assistant automation software
    ~ High Availability
    NUC Next Unit of Computing brand of Intel small computers
    PCIe Peripheral Component Interconnect Express
    RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC
    SBC Single-Board Computer

    4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 10 acronyms.

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