Saw a right wing outlet do an interview with Sellner, the main speaker at that event yesterday.
Typical right wing nonsense.
“Immigrants who are extremist and do not integrate must leave! But only in the confines of the existing legal framework, or the way we can adjust it!”
The issue is and has always been: how do you send someone back if you do not know where back is? They destroy their papers, lie about who they are and now what? They address this by not addressing it as hr says, those that do that must be expelled from Germany. WHERE TO, MOTHERFUCKER?
And that’s where the issue comes up. They are discussing setting up an “example state” somewhere in Africa where they can just deport anyone to. Even cheekily mentioned that those that wish to help immigrants can go and do that in that state.
WHAT STATE YOU FUCKWIT? Where will this be set up without massively violating some States sovereignty?
They don’t need to have or display practical solutions, since it is all dog whistles anyway. Their cesspool voter base knows that this means camps and deportation into said camps, no matter where they are.
Love the cunt banging on about how economic migrants are bad and yet somehow they want to help the countries of origin by stopping their brain drain towards Germany, all in a time where our replacement levels and thus support for elderly are impossible without migration.
These racist fucks always sing the same tunes.
hmm, i wonder if they think this solution to their undesirables has some finality about it
sacked for saying the quiet bit out loud
Yep. And not the first, or the last one, either.
Germany, we’ve been over this.
No you haven’t that’s the thing, the amount of Nazis that didn’t get put on trial speaks volumes about the real reason for the war. There was a show trial for the Nazis that the allies had no use for and just finger wagging afterwards.
One of the greatest failures of both past and current administrations. The reason a majority of Nazis weren’t put on trial was simply: If they had, every single structure would have fallen apart, because they were in every level of administration, etc. There simply - from the perspective of the allies - weren’t any people that could replace these structures adequately. So they didn’t pursue. Same with the 2008 financial crisis. A single banker got charged. Why? Because they would have had to fully dismantle every established system to really root out the people responsible, because they’re so interconnected. Stabilizing the shit ass system was a priority over seeking justice.
It always will be, if the infestation just spreads far and deep enough. Which is becoming a real concern again.
I’ve seen this claim before and at best its only a half truth. I can’t give a full write up unfortunately but a lot of top Nazis and SS members were given cover to settle elsewhere or used to agitate against the Soviet Union. Some were useful, like engineers or other academic Nazis, others were useful because they could be trusted to be anticommunist and still others had useful contacts in parts of the world the US had little to no influence in.
It’s not a half truth, it’s a full truth. Doesn’t mean your statements are untrue or mutually exclusive. There were certainly Nazis being used and recruited directly into other services on the end of the allies, no doubt. US rocket development is a great example on that.
But I am talking about the majority of just the basic German administration, public, medical, engineering and civil servants, and just the people in general. That’s hundreds of thousands of jobs and structures that simply couldn’t be replaced but also wasn’t filled with the brightest and smartest super suited to the things you’re talking about. It wasn’t just the SS and top brass that were Nazis. It went through and through the entire society. And you really cannot simply throw these kinds of people in jail without having replacements ready. Up to 45 million Germans were part of Nazi organizations and thus affiliated with the ruling party that had been overthrown.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
There were simply too many, so prosecution was deemed impossible at scale. It’s a really interesting process, but the allies tried, but it lead to problems
If we are talking about why most of the Nazis weren’t put on trial the reason “they were in administration” is only half the truth as a lot of Nazis weren’t put on trial because the US had a use for them or because they just didn’t care enough. I mean look at how the Soviets approached denazification and how the US did. East Germany was a lot more thorough than west germany.
As an example SS members were allowed entry to Canada who had a very strict “no communists” immigration policy and their SS tattoos actually proved to be an advantage to prove that.
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Think it’s fair that people that do not integrate into society they have moved to don’t deserve to live in that society.
Drawing the line is very difficult though. But I seems all the reasonable choices have been ignored and its getting too late now.
They will draw a line and you accept it. They will move the line and you accept it. They will do it again, and suddenly, you are affected, but then, it’s too late.
If I lived in Germany then they chucked me out because I wasn’t integrating then fair enough it’s their country.
Well, I’m actually from Germany… Martin Sellner is far right and parts of AfD are also far right.
Let’s assume, he forces you out of the country, because you “don’t integrate well enough”…
And then, what?
If you asked him, he’d tell you that the LGBT community hurts tradition and therefore is not integrated enough. He’d probably tell you about the “Homo lobby that destroys the country” or similar shit…
He’d probably create a new enemy, probably a religion.
Also worth to mention: Who decides, who is not integrated enough? There are already laws to send criminals away under conditions.
Those people, especially Sellner are people you don’t want to be in power. Repairing what they’d destroy would take decades.
Difficult problems for sure.
Difficult times don’t tend to have simple answers though.
Many countries are getting more hardcore because there seems to be this internationally mentality of “since your country is doing better, you MUST accept all and any immigrants…”. It’s gotten ridiculous. It seems that only when Western countries or European countries start cracking down on immigration and the issues that surround it, it’s a problem. Never mind the Middle East, Asia, Africa, and South America…who are constantly battling the same things but no one seems to care that they’re trying to enforce immigration changes…
