• Labtec6@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    India and China are a couple of the biggest polluters. They also just happen to be in an area that will be one of the hardest hit, especially with their size of their population.

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      10 months ago

      Let’s look at the data, shall we?

      • the top 4 planet heating polluters of 2022 are China, India, the USA and the EU … responsible for 82% of emission in 2022
      • China may be the biggest emitter overall, but the average American is responsible for nearly twice as much climate pollution as the average person in China Source
      • historically the USA is the top CO² polluter ever, contributing over 400 billion tonnes since 1751 … more than twice what China has contributed
      • the EU is second to the USA at 300 billion tonnes since 1751 Source
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        10 months ago

        Sure it’s always the same discussion with historical pollution. It’s cool, nice point, whatever, but we’ve got to stop warming NOW, not let every country in the world catch up to a couple of centuries of pollution accumulated by developed nations.

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          10 months ago

          Meanwhile the US has hit record oil extraction and natural gas exports this year. Big load of good developed nations are doing.

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          10 months ago

          America knew in the 70’s there was going to be problems and did nothing to stop it.

          Yelling at other nations who were simply trying to catch up with the standard the US set is pointless.

    • Cogency@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      They are the biggest producers, but that is because most of the world places their production in China and India. America is the biggest consumer of those products.

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      10 months ago

      China is definitely not one of the highest polluters per capita. And that’s also taking into the fact that most of the Western world is produced there.

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        10 months ago

        But it is the second biggest polluter overall.

        You don’t get to pretend that doesn’t count for anything because Xi and his buddies steal from their citizens.

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      10 months ago

      China is also blasting through their Paris commitments like they’re nothing. It’s actually absurd how much they’re going to beat their Paris commitments by.

      Even as China builds new supercritical coal plants, they’re tanking utilization of existing coal plants to the point where peak fossil fuel use (according to the IEA) could happen THIS YEAR.