When Meta launched their new Twitter competitor Threads on July 5, they said that it would be compatible with the ActivityPub protocol, Mastodon, and all the other decentralized social networks in the fediverse “soon”.

But on July 14, @alexeheath of the Verge reported that Meta’s saying ActivityPub integration’s “a long way out”. Hey wait a second. Make up your mind already!

From the perspective of the “free fediverse” that’s not welcoming Meta, the new positioning that ActivityPub integration is “a long way out” is encouraging. OK, it’s not as good as “when hell freezes over,” but it’s a heckuva lot better than “soon.” In fact, I’d go so far as to say “a long way out” is a clear victory for the free fediverse’s cause.

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      I’ll stop when capitalism and governments no longer exist.

      (By government, I mean the institution of a group of rulers and attendant enforcement, used to compel others to do what they would otherwise not).

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        Governments will always exist. Sorry to burst that bubble. They always have and they always will.

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          Lmao you think there were governments when early humans were wandering around the plains of Africa in tiny little tribes?

          E: Downvote all you want but by the definitions being proposed here then all species have governments because they snatch food from one another, which is an immensely asinine description of ‘government’ since it describes and means effectively NOTHING

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            As long as there is a limited supply of resources there will be some form of economic distribution and a government to settle disputes about that distribution.

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              If you argue that any attempt to resolve an economic dispute(that apple is mine!) is through government, then yes, they will exist as long as we do.

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            Yeah, the fatalism is sad.

            People lack both the knowledge to realize that different forms of society already existed (and do, currently), and imagination to realize that it’s possible to move towards a different and better form.

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            So you want to reduce humanity by 99%? Because hunter gatherer lifestyle isn’t sustainable with more than 100 million people.

            Oh and you also want to go back to a life expectancy of 40 years, barely any useful medicine, exorbitant child mortality, countless women dying at birth and the constant fear that your surroundings will kill you.

            Sounds great!

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              Huh??? I never advocated for going back to a pre-agriculture society society at all, i was pushing back against the idea that governments ‘have always existed’ because of course they haven’t, that’s patently absurd since they are social constructs

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                You’re right, I didn’t look at the usernames and thought you were op, arguing that we don’t need governments and can go back to tribes. Sorry :/

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            Human history. The oldest history of humanity we have is the Sumerians. From that time on every large group of people formed a government. Babylon. Arkadian. Egyptian. Greek.

            Other forms of government are tribes. Hunters. Gatherers. Those are tribes.

            Show us people that didn’t have a form of government and we’ll be impressed.

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              I see, if you define government as “any collection of humans,” than yes, it’s always been extant.

              What I meant, however, was a group of rulers that use force to compel others to do what they would otherwise not.

              Written history is also a blip terms of the duration of the history of humanity, too. Something like 1%. We can access some of the rest via anthropology.

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                Yes. Those types of people have always been around. Have you never read history before? You can aCkuALY all you want to, I don’t care. I’d rather you left that shit attitude at reddit, though.

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                  Ah, that’s just the point - the types of people have been around for awhile, but the institutions supporting them — backing militias, basically — have not.

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                    I can’t continue with this conversation simply because of how ignorant you are. I’m not here to argue with you over the dumb things you feel are gotcha points. You are not as clever as you think you are.

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                  You’re out of line. If anyone has the reddit attitude of casting aspersions rather than rebut effectively, it is you.