• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Look how wide that dude’s stance is. Fucking loser. What a bunch of big tough guys with masks. Show your faces, and be proud of your actions bitches.

    Edit: It’s giving:

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    Walk up and join them. Wear a balaclava, carry a canvas bag with dollar signs on it. Caution: This plan may backfire if you’re not white.

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    I’m pretty sure, in some states, You can shoot people looking like that.

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      I actually just looked it up. In certain states, this falls under the “Stand Your Ground” law.

      Defense of Others: State law permits the use of force, including deadly force, to defend another person. Non-deadly force is justified when a person reasonably believes it is necessary to protect someone from imminent unlawful force. Deadly force is justified to prevent imminent death, great bodily harm, or a “forcible felony” to the other person. Examples of forcible felonies include murder, robbery, and aggravated assault.

      Immunity from Prosecution: A key feature of the Stand Your Ground law is potential immunity from criminal prosecution and civil lawsuits if the use of force is found to be legally justified. A defendant can request a pretrial hearing to determine if their actions were justified, potentially leading to dismissal of the case. The prosecution must provide clear and convincing evidence that the force was not justified.

      Important Considerations: The force used must be proportional to the threat. Stand Your Ground does not apply if the person was engaged in unlawful activity or provoked the attack. Immunity also generally does not apply when using force against a law enforcement officer performing their duties.

      Meaning if you see a bunch of masked men trying to abduct someone and they aren’t identifying themselves as law enforcement, you can legally shoot them to defend the person being assaulted. You would also be immune from criminal prosecution for doing so.

      You’d better be a great shot though. And you’d probably get killed. At minimum for sure you’re getting arrested (and probably disappeared). But you are legally in the clear. And the news would be ALL over it. I’d like the TACO administration compete against Republican-state laws.

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    Looks like one of those nazi rallies. They’re all white too. Lmao its so obvious.

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    How does anyone know they’re ICE? what if six guys in masks showed up and threw these guys in an unmarked van and says THEY’RE ICE?

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    They look like random Grand Theft Auto enemies that you wipe out by the dozen.

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    There is absolutely no proof that these people are ICE, or any other agents of the state. Do not assume masked strangers throwing people in vehicles are law enforcement. Especially if they don’t identify themselves.

    We all need to stop making this assumption, and to start encouraging others to also not make this assumption.

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      are you implying anyone was making this assumption? any group of thugs could pretend to be ICE this way

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      My favorite so far is the people who follow these fuckers around with megaphones and broadcast the rights people have when dealing with ICE, numbers of local lawyers and advocates, and other instructions to help people either avoid the interaction or at least have a fighting chance to due process if they are detained.

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        Absolutely. They should be afraid to get out of their van. They should be treated as if they are wearing a Nazi uniform.

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        What would be better is if, when people were being kidnapped by these brownshirts-at-home, the bystanders started beating these kidnappers to a bloody, gelatinous pulp. That way, the street sweepers could come and gently push their mouldering viscera where they belong: the gutter.

        Remember: there is no evidence that these people have the force of law behind them. Citizens should not allow others to be kidnapped in broad daylight.

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          Check your calendar—it’s not January 6, so the president doesn’t want you killing enforcement anymore.

          (You might get a pass if they’re arresting people and as a result causing traffic for supporters to get to his parade or rally.)

          “Killing cops is AWESOME but ONLY when you do it on your way to try to kill Mike Pence” -The President, obviously. Putin will also support that just like he complained about the death of Ashli Babbitt. (He actually did)

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          Absolutely. Numbers have power too. If you happen to be around when this happens do not let the eyes of those around you turn the other way.

          Everyone is waiting for someone to say something. But no one has said anything so we all think “well, I guess I don’t know the whole story because no one ELSE is doing anything”. It’s quite a well documented human group behavior.

          You need to be that first voice. You need to shake everyone else out of that thought. Because you know exactly what it is. It’s scary to be that first or second person to speak up.

          But another well documented human behavior is that when someone goes to help, others join in, they get shaken out of their “freeze” and decide to fight.

          Our society isn’t broken enough yet for people not to care when someone is being kidnapped. They just need you to call it what it is.

          Just keep calling “ICE” liars. If they try to say they are federal agents just keep saying they are lying. Do everything to delay until you have enough support to make them feel afraid. Again, they are Nazis. They are not brave. They are scared little losers. Don’t let them feel safe to get out of their black vans.

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          One big worry is that if I fight these bastards, the Democrat-backed apparatus would arrest me for being in the wrong. I don’t want to get into a fight since I am poor and have no friends…but hopefully I have the guts to get involved, if my neighbors start being rounded up.

          Part of the reason why ICE can do what it does, is because establishment politicians are not willing to support the concept of antifa. The failure to inspect ICE trafficking facilities, standing aside and letting police abuse protestors, the gentle approach regarding January 6th, and more, all contributes to a disbelief in the Democrats.

          Hopefully, local leadership will start appearing. I want to join a ICE Breaker militia. Without support, legal and morale, I might not find it in myself to do what must be done. 😰

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      The problem is, it’s plausible they are ice, and in the US hoodlums gathering near a van before pulling a heist are rarer than unmarked ICE guys waiting to acquire a target, so if this isn’t a movie set, they’re most likely ICE.

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      I get what you mean. But, materially, there is not much of a difference. You should absolutely do everything in your power to stop or resist them.

      They are Nazis with a badge or Nazis without a badge. That badge doesn’t change what should be done to them by anyone that sees them. They should not feel safe getting out of their van. There are more of us. Get organized and be ready to be that 2nd or 3rd or 4th random stranger that is brave enough to standup to them.

      Nazi’s aren’t brave. They are wimpy little losers. That’s why they are Nazis. Don’t let them feel safe anywhere they go.

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    that’s actually a mob of criminals. you see these dbags you need to call 911, especially if you are not an immigrant.

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    People should call and report suspicious armed men about to rob or do something nefarious. Get the locals all twisted up with reports. Get them scared then sick them on the federallies.