Freed Israeli hostages erupted in anger during a tense meeting on Tuesday with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, saying that they were terrified they would be killed by Israeli airstrikes on Gaza instead of their Hamas captors.

“We were in tunnels, terrified that it would not be Hamas, but Israel, that would kill us, and then they would say Hamas killed you,” the woman from the southern Israeli village of Nir Oz near the Gaza border said

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    Look harder

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181

    And please, actually read the article. Including the horrific depictions of mutilation and mass rape. Understand what you are defending when you say shit like this. Because just because the Israeli Government have been locking Palestinians in an open air concentration camp for decades does not mean that Hamas are not just as evil as any other Islamic State organization.

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      Your article basically said “we BBC journalists saw a video of people that said they saw a gang rape, no rape kits or videos of it or any evidence though, trust me bro israel wouldn’t lie”

      Try reading the article you linked. You’re linking a known propaganda outlet that verbatim quotes IDF propaganda with 0 evidence. The same site that spread the “40 beheaded babies” lie.

      I recommend you watch this Owen Jones video about the israeli attack montage they only show to journalists. Israel put all the worst stuff they could find into that video but there was zero evidence of rape.

      https://youtu.be/mc5iG3DX7ho?si=7AVWII5YTGojRr_j

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        So because there is not explicit footage of Hamas engaging in rape, the following is irrelavent?

        Videos of naked and bloodied women filmed by Hamas on the day of the attack, and photographs of bodies taken at the sites afterwards, suggest that women were sexually targeted by their attackers.

        Videos filmed by Hamas include footage of one woman, handcuffed and taken hostage with cuts to her arms and a large patch of blood staining the seat of her trousers.

        In others, women carried away by the fighters appear to be naked or semi-clothed.

        Multiple photographs from the sites after the attack show the bodies of women naked from the waist down, or with their underwear ripped to one side, legs splayed, with signs of trauma to their genitals and legs.

        Even if you believe that there is a focused effort to plant government agents at every single level and with multiple aide organizations all to promote some evil conspiracy: The above is footage and images that reporters (and civilians who click the wrong links online…) have seen.

        I realize people have difficulty understanding people (that they misguidedly think) are fighting for a cause they care about can do no wrong but… Hamas is REALLY fucking evil and so is erasing the suffering of these women because it doesn’t support your “Freedom fighters” narrative.

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          You still haven’t watched the video huh. There are a gazillion cameras in israel and not one of them captured any rape, nor was israel able to produce any rape kits. There were multiple calls for the IDF to use rape kits to provide conclusive evidence and they just decided to ignore them all.

          I don’t accept “some anonymous israeli said this happened, no you can’t even see the video of them saying it” as evidence.

          You are so far gone on the “Hamas evil” train that you won’t look at the facts in front of you and are willing to just blindly repeat any IDF accusation. Just like the 40 beheaded babies.

          There is no evidence of rape. It was an IDF accusation made at the beginning of the conflict that hasn’t been backup up by any evidence after two months.

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            Multiple photographs from the sites after the attack show the bodies of women naked from the waist down, or with their underwear ripped to one side, legs splayed, with signs of trauma to their genitals and legs.

            you haven’t seen these photographs huh

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          Just because someone saw a hostage with blood on her pants doesn’t mean she was raped. A lot of hostages were shot etc.

          The article talks about the presence of a body with a broken pelvis. I’m pretty sure rapes don’t cause that, despite the author’s insinuation. It can happen from bombing or people being run over.

          Is this the standard of evidence we’re using?