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That’s like saying “I’m pro-life and anti-gun control”.
Oh. Wait.
Edit: Guy confirmed that he is, indeed, pro-life and anti-gun control.
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Ahh a classic vehicle cyclist!
I can hear John Forester screaming in his grave
Bike lanes are fine as long as we don’t get rid of roads in the process. Living 10 miles from a city, terrible public transport and chronic pain means I’m not about to use my bike for actual errands. Before we say “just fix public transport” there is a balance of how much it will cost vs how much it is worth and no, I don’t think it will be worth fixing
You lie. That’s how. They aren’t pro bike they are just saying it to make their point
I disagree, but I’ve definitely heard this argument before. NYC bike lanes are almost never respected. Cyclists need to be just as aware in a bike lane as they are splitting lanes.
Yep the concept is called “vehicular cycling”. Proponents argue that cyclists fare the best when they act like and are treated as any other vehicle in traffic. It’s bullshit of course, cyclists are safer in dedicated infrastructure and we should try to transform urban areas to be less car-centric and more walkable in general.
Oh The Urbanity! youtube channel made a video about this in particular: https://youtu.be/XpnZy7RrO3I
I’m all for separated bike lanes etc. They’re nicer and safer than riding on the road. however when that doesn’t exist the safest way to ride is to behave like a car, so holding the leave etc. Otherwise people try to squeeze past you or your less visible and it gets really dangerous
That’s because most of them are unprotected and drivers are assholes. Paint doesn’t mean shit to them
Places that implement bike lanes in a decent way have physical dividers between the car and bike lanes, not just paint.
“it’s simple math” - read about that expression on Facebook, never actually had math themselves as they were home schooled in creationism and flat earth.
Wtf even is simple-math? Arithmetic? Logic? The 2006 Kansas middle-school curricilum?
I am anti-bike lane. Honestly at least 50% of it is from the shitty bike posts. Probably more. Some of it is from the massive unused bike lane they built in my neighborhood. It cut though yards and 50ish trees and permanently fucked traffic. But half of it is the sorry-ass bike memes.
“I don’t like some pictures online so cyclists should have to ride in the street.”
lol
Some of it is from the massive unused bike lane they built in my neighborhood.
It probably isn’t unused. You probably just think it’s unused because a bike lane has a lot more capacity than a car lane, so they appear a lot less full for the same amount of traffic.
https://transportist.org/2016/03/30/on-why-bike-lanes-might-appear-underutilized/
The thing is that bike lanes need to be built intelligently. As a bike commuter I want to have bike lanes that don’t force me to ride close to parked cars because that is dangerous for the cyclist and people getting in and out of the cars. I want to be able to conserve momentum and not have to stop everywhere, because building up speed costs effort. In my country if there is a bike lane its use is compulsary, but some lanes are so unsafe or so built to kill your speed that I often do avoid them wholly or partially.
I admit to being somewhat of a vehicular cyclist but I support easier safe options for those who are not.
If traffic is so fucked, you should just ride your bike instead. Sounds like you’d have a nice traffic-free bike lane all to yourself.
Yeah! Great! If the bike path led to anything. You have inspired me to show up for town hall meetings to try and remove the bike path. Good job!
Do you not see that this is exactly the point? What good is a new bike path if it doesn’t lead anywhere? I’m not sure how you see this as a problem of too many bike paths and not too few bike paths Genuinely asking if you can see the merit of this point — as I 100% agree with your premise, and 100% disagree with your conclusion.
Has the concept of “extending the bike lane so it leads to something” crossed your mind, or have you been huffing too much gasoline for that kind of radical thinking?
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Well, at least you’re not in denial about it. Good for you!
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With opinions like that, I expect there are very many things you don’t realize. That isn’t one of them, but I respect the attempt. Good lad.
Got a friend this way. He hates bikes on the road. And yells to get on the greenways etc. Cause slow his lifted f150, that he needs to commute and get groceries, down for 30 seconds. The bike then get on the greenway and then he bitches they go too fast there.
Also he weighs about 300 lbs and doesn’t work out in any way.
I’m pro bike and anti bike lane.
The entire street should be for bikes only
That’s what happens in my city, people hella mad about it
Car users arent people.
Some of them are against bike lanes because they say it gives drivers a false sense of entitlement and cyclists a false sense of security when they’re supposed to be sharing the road.
That doesn’t sound like this guy, though.
I ride an odd bike, a recumbent. I have seen a few cars watching me rather than the road, which is good for me — they give me loads of space — but bad for anyone ahead of me as the drivers show no lane control for a good 50m after they pass me. Where that happened most recently is also where a driver killed a cyclist by wandering into the bike lane despite having a six metre wide lane to themselves (even the cycle lane there is three metres wide)
That’s potentially another objection, I guess–“they’re going to run us over either way, why bother inconveniencing us with unprotected bike lanes as well?”–but I guess that feels to me like perfectionism.
Bike lanes suck. Separated bike paths are much better. Or just streets without cars at all, no need for a bike lane if there are no cars.
In this paradise, where are the Rollerbladers?
Dead since about 1990.
Rollerblade lane.
Separate but equal. /s
Nah nah nah, rollerblade path. No need for a rollerblade lane of there are no bikes.
In this paradise, where are the pogo sticks?
Next to the unicycle path.
4 wheels bad.
2 wheels good.
8 wheels, mmmm OK, over there please.
Dave must be an “avid cyclist” you see at public meetings.
who the fuck said anything about novelty?
I’m stealing this.
Ironic that the replier’s last name is (assumedly) carr
Sorry but I will not take infrastructure advice from someone with the last name “carr”… /s
