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    To be fair I think it is happening to Google as much as it is to everyone else, we are running down a hill and are going too fast to stop.

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    The two thing I use most, by far, from Google, is gmail and basic search.

    Gmail, I’m looking to move away from it now, but I currently have every little addition to it disabled. Basic inbox and tags, no automatic filtering, no categories, no nothing.

    Search, my browser is set to open the “web” tab with the query, no transformation, no summary, no “for you”, no AI garbage, no “we thought you wanted video so there’s only video in the replies”. It still works fine.

    Basically, none of what they added for years… maybe decade at this point, had held a glimmer of interest from me. It feels like this trend will continue. I just want something very basic that works.

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      Switch over to the Qwant search engine for your basic search and a good email provider like Tutamail or Proton. I have for a few months and there really is no reason to go back. It’s simple and it works.

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        I’m self-hosting my mails; no need for another third party that will decide whatever whenever. The major difficulty is the decades of things that are reliant on the old one.

        And I just said that google works fine for search, despite people claiming it’s on the decline, broken, unusable, etc. That’s not to move toward qwant, who are no less shady, burn money (sometimes coming from public money…), and despite wonderful claim of an autonomous index, completely stop working when Bing is down. As far as recommendations for search engine goes, google (and Bing for that matter) are far less disingenuous. All usable search engines these days are backed by the big ones anyway. Something like https://openwebsearch.eu/ would be a better alternative, assuming it follows on its promises.

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      But higher quality ≠ more profits
      AI apparently makes investors wanna dump in all their money tho

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        We have to find those investors man… its always those investors investors bla, we have to please them…

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        Rich people at tech companies replace workers with AI, set up a security force that goes after immigrants, surveil the city with a camera network, try to remove the human from the equation, try to upload human consciousness to the cloud, lots of other AI tech dystopian stuff.

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          That’s when a group of underground hackers start recruiting random people off the street like Granny and generic construction worker 12, and take the fight back to them!

          …right?

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    The other day I asked my phone for a measurement conversion while cooking only to be greeted by the new Gemini nonsense. Don’t touch my shit!

    Then I was driving and tried to play a specific song, but the Assistant couldn’t get further than dumping me into YouTube Music and hiding my navigation.

    So anyways, I just uninstalled Assistant and after failing to find something else I came to Lemmy and saw this.

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    Millions of businesses are so innovative they are choosing the same basket to put all their eggs in.

    Capitalism sure is fun. Simply side economics plus massive deregulation is sure to provide humanity with it’s salvation.

  • altphoto@lemmy.today
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    First of all no thanks and second… How do I totally opt out because we must assume those cretins opted us all in. I’ve opted out one one account. Does that work for everything?

  • wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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    Gemini.

    The twins.

    Castor and Pollux.

    They were tricked by their cousins and started the whole Trojan War.

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    To be fair, they kind of have to pivot from search at this point. More and more people are using alternative ways to find information. That cash cow is dying.

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      Read Ed Zitron’s work on google search. It’s dying because they killed it.

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          I think they did more - I vaguely remember them admitting they messed up the search result on purpose so the user will run more queries and will see even more ads.

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    Google has gotten so fucking dumb. Literally incapable of performing the same function it could 4 months ago.

    How the fuck am I supposed to trust Gemini!?

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      google search got dumb on purpose, a whistleblower called it out - if you spend longer look on the search pages they get more “engagement” time out of you…

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      I find this current timeline so confusing. Supposedly we’re going to have AGI soon, and yet Google’s AI keeps telling you to stick glue on pizza. How can both things be true?

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        It’s the same reason why they removed the headphone jacks from phones. They don’t want to give you a better product, they want you to force youbto use a product, even if it’s worse in all aspects

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          Whoa don’t come for Bluetooth like that. I like not having tangled wires and janky earbuds/headphones, especially because my clumsy ass used to snap the cords all the time by accident.

          I do agree though that we should get the choice to use headphone jack or bluetooth. I also miss having a jack since I have to use my charging port to connect to my car radio…

          Edit: My comment is an implication that I want phones with headphone jacks. I know that phones have headphone jacks and bluetooth. Why am I getting downvoted?

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        I assume it’s big tech that has this weird ai they try to sell while the scientists are using different ai for real useful stuff, like the protein something I heard. Or at least that’s what I’d like to believe.

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          A whole lot of useful stuff that wasn’t publicly labelled AI got relabeled to take advantage of funding opportunities. That doesn’t mean it is related to generative AI like LLMs and image generators though.

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        Google just released a video generator that is a ball hair away from perfection. The hallucination rate from their latest models is <1% and dropping you just see cherry picked screenshots.

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          I don’t think image generators are really in the same category though. They’ll have their applications but they’re not going to be a fundamental change to society the way AGI will be.

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                Yes it does. It’s one component of a broader system. The ability to generate helps it interpret. An AGI might use a diffusion model to imagine scenarios, generate visual plans, or process sensory input.

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                  The AGI, by definition, will make something vastly better than diffusion model. That’s one of the cornerstones of AGI, it will explode it’s capabilities.

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      I was fucking irked when I wanted to use Hey Google to add something to my grocery list. I had switched to Gemini not realizing its scope, and suddenly Gemini was needing voice permission then some other seemingly unrelated, unnecessary permission (can’t recall exactly but something like collaborative documents) to add to my grocery list. Fuck that. Then it seemed very difficult to find the setting to switch back to Google assistant, but I eventually found it.

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    it’s part of a welcoming trend of who gives a fuck

    the less relevant megacorps are the better, i hope they all go all in on fake AI and lose everything whilst choking

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    It’s crazy Google will lose its search dominance and all its money in my lifetime. Android will probably be the only thing left when I die.

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      Not even sure about that though. There are many ideas already to “revolutionize” the OS market where your device basically becomes a sole wrapper for AI, ditching the concept of apps etc. I assume it would center around some agentic bullshit or so.