• Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    people will still find ways for vehicles to hit them

    was in the city yesterday and someone decided to walk behind a reversing vehicle that was leaving the parking space then proceeded to blame them

    also speed limits are not enforced in the United States very well

    we need either one or the other and don’t have the transportation technology for both at this current point in time

    • Evkob (they/them)@lemmy.ca
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      2 hours ago

      someone decided to walk behind a reversing vehicle that was leaving the parking space then proceeded to blame them

      You mean someone backed their car into a pedestrian without making sure the way was clear?

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        You might have forgotten over half of all people are idiots. Driver and pedestrian alike. No excuse for the driver not looking out being the liable one, but a lot of people walk right into shit because they’re either: not paying attention, think if something happens they can sue for money, or are frankly idiots.

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        5 hours ago

        I favor designed spaces for pedestrians over more cops/enforcement any day.

        ACAB and passive enforcement over active enforcement. It saves money and lives.

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        Enforcement can never solve speeding.

        Tired of them pretending like that’s what they are doing… instead of admitting that they are fleecing people with bad impulse control or a genuine emergency

      • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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        Yup, the intersection in Sunnyside Queens where Tom Holland’s Spiderman lives was the worst place for pedestrian deaths in the city until the city curved the road a bit about 1 mile back.

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      yes, enforce speed limits, keep head on swivel when out & about on street, sidewalk, parking lot…

  • Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
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    3 hours ago

    The increase in retail sales is a powerful one for local businesses, who usually argue against this kind of thing.

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    I was in Salt Lake City yesterday. Was one of the most bike friendly cities I’ve ever been to in the US. A group ride with 100s of people was happening until midnight. There was also decent public transportation and tons of rentable bicycles and scooters galore. Ya’ll should be proud of what you’ve done there downtown.

    Granted it was still an American city. There was still loud car traffic and lengthy timed crosswalks.

    But it did give me an idea. What if cars were prohibited from downtown? If there were well placed parking decks surrounding the square? What if shipping trucks used back alleys or were infrequent enough that they could drive on walking surfaces? People would walk or use bikes or scooters to get where they need to go. Perhaps a hop-on-hop-off train or buses or tram for longer commutes for those who cannot or choose not to walk?

    The streets would be quiet. Green spaces abound interspersed among the buildings. The city could be built for people and life instead of cars.

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        There are plenty of cities around the world with downtowns closed to cars, and a lot of thriving stores.

        There are solutions, this is not an excuse to to allow cars in city centers

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        Outside peak hours, by very slow-moving delivery vehicles. This is a solved problem all over Europe