• Pup Biru@aussie.zone
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    18 hours ago

    i’d say it’s both: why would you risk being detained at the border, potentially be subject to general abuse when you’re in the country because you’re “foreign”, detained in the country for… who the fuck knows, AND because america first means your tourism money supports a country actively bullying your home country

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      15 hours ago

      You forgot “extrajudicially kidnapped and shipped to a country you’re not a citizen of,” as well.

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        11 hours ago

        My question anybody getting taken is

        Why would you let anyone take you at all?

        They won’t take me from my house alive and I don’t understand how they’re doing it to anyone else. I’ve been told since birth never let a man take me to an unknown place.

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          11 hours ago

          Some believe that this is normal. How, I do not know. I’ve been wandering the streets armed for the off-chance I find an ICE raid. At this point I have nothing left to lose, I want to try to kill those masked fucks. I live in a blue state (and there have been ICE raids here) so maybe the police will let me off if I claim I believed it was an illegal gang.

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      11 hours ago

      No way the vast majority of humans even know about people being detained at the border. I’ll say that confidently because it’s pretty obvious the amount of humans I interact with on a daily basis. Don’t know shit about shit about shit about shit. Now we got some of them, insisting Proven science like polio vaccines don’t actually work and are making you out to be the asshole if you get a vaccine and go out in public.

      I don’t actually think that any human on this planet is any better than that. I would be willing to bet that most human beings know way more about someone like Tiger King or whoever was the latest Netflix special then they do about Politics or anything going on in the world. And this level of bullshit continues because there’s no end to people insisting that it’s perfectly OK to not pay any attention and then they turnaround and insist those same exact people need to go out and vote. The people that don’t know shit the people that don’t pay attention the that don’t fucking know anything are all voting And they think that it’s their damn duty to know nothing and vote.

      And if you think any fucking person in any country is any different, you’re gonna be really shocked when you find out how shit we all are. 30% of the world will support fascism. Done. 30% of humans are fucked From the jump. That’s the reality we’re dealing with 30% the vein that continues through all of history. 30% of Humanity are shit. 30% of us are going to drag the rest to hell.

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        11 hours ago

        the news in australia is pretty straight up about it… honestly we get about as much trump news as australian politics, and since they detained an aussie everyone has been very wary. i can only assume the same is true for the rest of the world (i watch some UK news media and it seems similar in tone)

        i think you’re underestimating the mood outside the US… everyone is aware… not everyone is boycotting (because that’s too hard i guess) but very few people are actively making plans to visit. why would you?

        both for self preservation reasons (people are doing this), and for just “fuck you” reasons: never underestimate humanity’s desire to knock the “top dog” down a few pegs especially if it’s for “my tribe” reasons

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        No way the vast majority of humans even know about people being detained at the border.

        What’s more relevant is how many people know who can afford vacations to the US.