The title says it all. Part of what i do now is to convince people to care about their privacy. I know I cannot force people to do anything. And I have a charisma level of -1, if this was an rpg. Like its nonnexistent.

I feel lonely in general because it feels like people make me feel like I’m delusional for caring about protecting my privacy. Maybe there is a support group for that🤣🤣🤣

But anything I can specifically say that works best in planting a seed in people’s mind?

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    Important point to think about. People want comvience and comfort. I think we have gotten to the point where switching to privacy respecting options is easy and painless. Using signal is easy, using lemmy is easy, and even installing linux and other os is easy. Its just getting people to spend the time to do it. Even im moving slow as hell.

    Thats truu, its more about the other people. I think i get distressed because people dont care and I should stop it🤣🤣🤣

    Thank you so much

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      1. “Easy and painless” depends on your point of view, and we here tend to be biased. For example, just a couple of months ago I had to explain to “a normal person” how to make backup copies of a folder to a pen drive. She did not want additional backup software (and I still don’t know if W10 would have had the functionality out-of-the-box). Copypasting files was too difficult. In the end she decided to go with “save as”, which sounded like a horrible idea to me, since she’couldn’t remember how to open anything in Word that wasn’t in the recently used list when starting the software, and she is going to lose track of which file is which at some point. I doubt it would be “easy and painless” for people like her, who are very common outside our little bubble.

      2. Making someone change their opinion is not a sprint, but a marathon. State your opinion openly when relevant, don’t get into an argument, let it brew, mention it again when it comes up, live as you “preach”. That person I mentioned? Happily using Signal with me. Eager(!) to try Linux once W10 support runs out. I’ve told her I’ll install Mint DE on my laptop and loan it to her for unhurried testing and learning this summer while having her familiar backup to lean on if it gets difficult, and to install the same on her own computer when the support runs out, if she still wants me to.

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        Its definitely a marathon😭😭 i still have more privacy stuff left to do. Including getting a new email account, switching my main laptop to linux, deleting accounts.

        Truu, maybe i have more tech knowledge than i think, so its easy and painless for me🤣 youre right, maybe not for others

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          It’s a neverending process. 😄 I’ve been at this for some 3-4 years now, and was ready to delete WhatsApp only about 6 months ago, and it’s already left me out of some local groups. Worth it though, and one group moved with me. And just now in the process of hopefully moving from Graphene to PostmarketOS (functional on an OP6) or Ubuntu Touch (to be installed on a FP4), just a matter of deciding which one. In retrospect, I could have skipped this Graphene phase and just gone from Divest to Linux, but I wasn’t ready then.

          IMHO if you try to do things before it feels like “okay this works, next I want to try…”, you’re likely to just get overwhelmed and take a step back.

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            Truu it definitely is😭😭 im trying put linux on my surface tablet, its gonna be a hot mess.

            Wait your moving from graphene? Yeah if you dont own a pixel, i guess you have to🙄🙄

            Truu linux is a big step but it will work out! Good luck❤️❤️

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              Don’t get me wrong, Graphene would still be my choice for privacy & security. But what started out as a quest for privacy has somehow morphed to include FLOSS idealism, even AOSP derivatives feel “too google” now and I feel bad carrying a Pixel.

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        AKA, people have little to no cognitive flexibility. Edit: And we, autistics are convinced we’re incompetent, because we dare to think differently.

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      Using signal is easy,

      Only works if everyone else uses it too which won’t happen.

      using lemmy is easy,

      Figuring out which server to join and app to use may not be so easy. I see confused people on Lemmy asking what instance is best.

      installing linux and other os is easy.

      Installing wasn’t really ever the issue. It’s using them that’s the issue.

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        Truuu, i have so many friends on signal now, but i guess my circles run different.

        Oh truu, i just looked it up. Im in world and ml🤣🤣 didnt join the sus instances. Im basic🤣

        Is using linux hard in this day and age? I installed mint yesterday and had no problems. Im terrible with technology. I promise ill learn python and kotlin this year. But yeah, it was painless and easy. And i didnt brick my computer🤣

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      The autistic trait that comes back to bite me most often is the unshakeable confidence that if I just show someone the truth, they’ll believe me.

      This has bounced around in my skull since I read it in a meme here. I hate how true it is.