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Fuck yes! I want to stand united against fascism and imperialis!
A united European Army to defend against Russia, China and the US!
United European army Against imperialists
Pick one.
The fascism is already here, the member states are just as susceptible to it. Fight in your own country against the fascists, or the fascists take your United European army for imperialist means.
…you think China is going to invade Europe?
Europeans saying this will never not be funny.
Go back to your tankie-fascist instance
Words don’t mean anything anymore, my god
i thought i was already in one with these comments 😂
Do it. Please. The people need more negative press about the US. It hasn’t reach enough people in the EU yet.
Hasn’t reached enough people in the US, but it will
Great we can keep our good food and wines at lower prices.
It would be pearls before swines if they go to the US.Like a dog listening to classical music.
OMG IT’S DIZZY!
Good food and wines before swines* /s
Canadians appreciate your support when Trump announced tariffs against us so you will be able to count on Canadians supporting you.
At last, the big unifying moment when we’ll stop scrolling through memes and DO something. Yessir, I can feel it! Yep, any second now…
So? Did you do something? It’s been over 6 hours.
Do what exactly? Seems to me like EU leaders are working overtime behind the curtains. Better than also introducing stupid tariffs. Don’t fight stupid with stupid.
WYM do something?
If you’re European or anywhere else watching this clown expediating the demise of the US you need to do absolutely nothing and let him carry on.
If you’re in the US IDC. They all deserve what they get, they did nothing about that horrible country when it was trying to be the hegemon and harrassing the rest of the word since they profited and were fine with it.
Now they get a taste of their own medicine they complain but that’s about it, they are weak and incapable of real resistance.Sorry I cannot read your comment because you forgot to mention than China and Russia are bad and therefore any valid critics of US is actually pro China/Russia and thus invalid and you are a tankie 👍
I wouldn’t expect a better comment from your kind, LOL
The shit storm in the US is going to overflow.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but we all do better when we all do better.
there probably is some stuff that the eu makes that the us doesn’t.
If he tarriffs those, we should not replg by imposing tarriffs of our own (cutting our own balls off). We should just start increasing our prices for those products, therefore increasing their tarriffs
Isnt the company that makes the ultra precise lithography machines used by tnmc Dutch. Should sell them to Tue Chinese
It is.
But why not just keep it and get the tech used at home? You don’t sell a valuable asset to an economic rival just to spite another economic rival. What you do is you cling on to every technological advantage you have in the market place and capitalise on it as much as you can.
Who would sell them? No sane corpo would shoot themselves in the foot like that.
And shoot ourselves in the foot while we’re at it
give away our advantages?
an export tariff to fight their import tariff? that’s one way of saying we dgaf about your tariffs I suppose. And if they end up dropping the tariff because it’s hurting them too much, well that’d be the ultimate humiliation.
no not an export tarriff. That would mean we pay it.
You usually pay $1 for this item and now you’re forcing your citizens to pay 150%? ok, from now on my prices have increased by 100% so now your citizens must pay even more
They cut your gas and you’re cooked tho.
Have you ever seen such a schlubby looking President? Like his arms are down, shoulders as down as far they can be. Of course he’s not doing the accordion hands thing which is sort of a plus for him. That suit looks like off the rack too, I bet he gets them tailored that way heh. He sort of looks like he’s giving an 8th grade presentation for his class.
I will say it’s highly probable this picture was chosen for those attributes, but it’s not like his content or speaking skills would make it better than what is captured in an image. So I’m guessing the image captures the essence of the speech.
His ties are awful too. Why the fuck you want ties that are sooooo long? They look like a cartoon tie or something a clown would wear
Trying to disguise a paunch, and maybe look taller.
its to hide his gut, and his neckgina.
Time to act like China and not bend to him.
China’s strategy worked great, just counter any announced tarrif with an equal reciprocal tarrif and he’ll back off eventually. I wonder if we have more or less to loose than China had.
No, blind retaliatory tariffs would be stupid. When someone is punching themselves in the face, the correct thing to do is not to also punch yourself in the face.
Tariffs have 3 effects:
- The buyer pays more.
- Because the buyer pays more, the seller makes fewer sales.
- The government collects tariff tax revenue.
Whichever way the tariff goes, export or import, it will negatively affect that nation’s people. An import tariff, like this, would negatively affect local consumers. An export tariff (eg Canada tariffing electricity exports to the US) would negatively affect local businesses through lost sales (the genius with Canada is the US can’t stop buying electricity, so sales local sales would stay the same).
The only way a tariff makes sense for a country is if the tariff tax revenue is reinvested into the local economy. For example, if you tariff imports, you should use that revenue to incentivise local businesses to grow to replace that import.
Trump is not doing that. He’s just collecting tax money from American people. He’s almost certainly going to spaff that away on some scam, probably crypto, and basically bankrupt the American taxpayer and fuck up everyone’s livelihoods.
EU countries should not copy Trump and blanket tax their citizens for American imports. If the EU were to implement tariffs (and I argue this isn’t necessary or worthwhile), they should only be done with a plan to reinvest, such that there is a net benefit. Blunt tariffs with no plan will almost certainly have a net negative effect.
China is like Trump, in that neither of them care much about the negative effects on their people. That’s why China went hard with retaliatory tariffs. The EU does not need to emulate that behaviour.
We should tariff digital services and invest the revenue into building our own.
They’re also throwing out the Windows Garbage out of government and critical systems and switching to Linux, and want to audit the sources for the remaining systems
Don’t worry, he’ll back down either way. He’ll just claim that he’s made a great deal with EU even if no such deal has been made, and then lower the tariffs again.
In our national news they’ve said that the EU made offers and the Trump Team didn’t even responded to them, and they have the impression that they are severely understaffed and through the flowers indirectly said not very competent
Even if we lose more, we can’t back down from a bully. We need to stand strong and roll with the punches
Totally, don’t want our governments to be pushed over. Just saying I have no clue how we compare to China in this.
I say do nothing, as per another reply I made ITT.
Just because Trump hurts Americans with his beloved increased taxes—i.e. increased tariffs—doesn’t mean we should hurt our own people with the same. The MAGAts might enjoy that sort of masochism, but we don’t.
The responses are usually surgical. Last time EU also targeted Republican voting states with Sanctions
Thank you, this is something I’ve been screaming from the rooftops.
Trump doesn’t care about the American people who will pay his tariffs. China doesn’t care about Chinese people paying their tariffs on US goods (although there are probably fewer US imports to China anyway). The EU does care about its people, and shouldn’t tax them with tariffs.
Tariffs only work if you can prevent the local harm (eg Canada were going to tax electricity exports, the US can’t stop buying electricity so Canadian businesses wouldn’t lose sales) or to at least have a plan beforehand to reinvest in local businesses that can replace the imported good.
It seems ignoring him hurts his pride the most. No real response is needed anyway. EU has the whole process ready. Just take the map marked “Trump tariff”, look in the index for 50%-75% and start from there. Probably the first step is a wait period for when he charges his mind yet again.
The real secret weapon against trump is taking his toys away. No one’s managed to do it but I want more than anything is to win back the house and senate, take his Qatar plane away and use it for humanitarian aid.
I will fall asleep tonight dreaming of only this one thing.
I think this is a good idea. Trumps just fishing for a reason to backdown on Ukraine weapons deal. If this does nothing he will find another way.
We don’t hurt our own people. Europeans shouldn’t be buying US groceries anyway, there’s no need to.
The only thing that is largely inescapable is software, and that mostly affects businesses anyway. The USians will hurt way more.
I believe the economics agree, but the diplomats don’t. I am hoping the economics are the reason the eu is taking their time to respond.
Forget physical goods, hit us where it really hurts. Use the intellectual property clause, and start cracking down on Big Tech.
The US makes all its money with power projection through its services, so fuck them up. Please.
And for heavens sake, Europe would be healthier with a little less Twitter and fewer fees payed to the US.
This would be the perfect time to call out their hypocritical extension of copyright through recent trade deals.
American tech companies have made fortunes by violating licensing and copyright laws. Force Uber and AirBNB to buy taxi and hotel licenses. Put an intellectual property tax on AI. Prosecute Paypal for banking without a charter, ban cryto as illegal currency… the list goes on.
That’s another good idea;
and this would actually benefit most Americans.
maybe have a 20-something-European entertainer calling himself “Kid Rock” who who does covers and derivations, decked out in EU stars, who publicly burns the American flag, and if he’s a transman, even better. 😁
“Whatcha gonna do, MAGAts? Sue me? I live in Europe, where we have Freedom. not in USSA!”
USEXIT!!!
…oh… wait
I’d vote for it if I could though
Get ready to sell those stocks, then buy again after, before rescinds again.
Please do
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My sentiments exactly
True that
Yeah you can tell by the way it is.
That’s pretty neat
Indeed
Hey that’s my monitor’s model number
It’s an older code, but it checks out.
Who y’all kidding, y’all know the EU will buckle up the next day.
I’m certain this was agreed upon in the recent phone conversation between Trump and punting Putin
Trump and his friends are making billions off manipulating the stock market by this mechanism.
How much should I bet this time that trump will bitch out
He just literally doesn’t give a shit if he is fucking everything up and he’s too stupid to do the right thing.
The strategy: Put in some shorts, announce Tarrifs, rake in the cash. Buy an obscene amount of stock on margin, announce a reduction in tariffs, rake in the cash.
The next day: Have Charles Schwab on TV with you to announce how your illegal market manipulation and insider trading have earned the man billions in a day. Every dollar of which was stolen from the retirement of the working class.
I live in a sea of selfish, undereducated, self-sabotaging, brainwashed Americans who are dumb as fuck.
Market manipulation and even short trading (do you want to invest? Then invest for years or at least several months, not days or even less) is a tax for the wealthy, paid by everyone else.
