• Guidy@lemmy.world
    3428·
    5 days ago

    Aww, cry harder.

    I started using Linux when it was Redhat, in the 1990s, and it came on a bunch of CDs.

    And I use WSL in addition to Debian, Raspbian, and Ubuntu.

    Knock this tribal bullshit off.

    • null@slrpnk.net
      261·
      5 days ago

      Yeah, why would they post something like this to the community for serious takes about Linux?

    • Optional@lemmy.world
      17·
      5 days ago

      CD’s?! Ooh La La Mister Fancy French man with the digital media! Back in our day linux came on a plastic 45 inside Fruity Pebbles cereal and it had loose crusty sugar in the grooves that introduced errors in X that meant the screen scrolled like an out-of-whack tv and you had to wait for the prompt to roll by so you could try another resolution that would core dump and spit you back to the A:\ drive and eject the disc into your shins like a frisbee! And that’s the way we liked it!

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
      151·
      5 days ago

      I started with Slackware. It came on floppies.

      Now move to the back of the line youngster.

    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
      251·
      5 days ago

      wouldn’t you be if you spent 25 years hearing Windows admins preaching about how much better windows is than Linux?

      I mean, I’m bitter AF about it and give the MS vendors a good ribbing now and again.

      If Windows was so great, why would WSL even be needed? unless their whole plan was to attempt to interfere with the Linux market and tempt people who left to come back.

      too bad they went full psycho with 11.

  • TheMightyCat@lemm.ee
    14·
    5 days ago

    Windows users when they see a wine user???

    I’m glad wsl exists so I don’t have to bother with windows and people can still run my programs.

    • Oniononon@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      Apt. Wine is pretty disgusting as a beginner linuxer.

      Proton however is incredible. An invisible solution that just works with no petformance impact.

      And “hardcore tinkering” is just changing the version from a dropdown menu to get old games to work.

  • somebodythatIusedToknow@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 day ago

    WSL is actually worse than people think it is , I tried doing android via using wsl and wanted to run emulator , the amount of work you have to put and still the result you get is sub norminal. And this was in my job which made the matter even worse because my boss thought I was slacking .

          • Hello Hotel@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            3 days ago

            Oddly enoigh, they recognize this and are patching the hundreds of tiny holes. I would argue they began trying (IMO malformed) fixes back since the launch of windows 8 and .NET. It’s backwards compatability means tiptoing around some pretty huge tech dept. (Windows was DOS and had no security model at one point) Each time they try to pull people off of their older SDKs. If and when they dont stick, the pile of stuff to support grows one more.

            (Also WTH where they thinking with windows 8 apps!? The oversimplicity of the UI leading to huge patches of unused screen space, the art design or lack thereof, the janky unpolished UI elements. It’s embarrising for how much pride they had for it.)

    • pool_spray_098@lemmy.world
      6·
      4 days ago

      I love having it at work, so I can write and run bash scripts on my Windows work PC.

      I have dozens if Linux servers available to me but sometimes it just is easier to run a script locally.

      • DigitalDilemma@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        4 days ago

        I too do that, working from a windows vm and writing code for linux - but I push it to a linux vm for testing. Never occurred to me to use WSL and have another environment to configure and maintain for dev that’s different to the target one.

        But fair play if that suits you! Each to their own, and I’m sure I do things that make no sense to others.

    • x00z@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      4 days ago

      Run Linux stuff on Windows.

      A big use case is development with Docker containers.

      • DigitalDilemma@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        4 days ago

        Thanks - I can kind of see that, as docker on windows is majorly broken. I think I’d just run it in a linux vm, as I do with most of my developing, but I can see some might not want that overhead.

        • rmuk@feddit.ukEnglish
          7·
          4 days ago

          That’s the best bit about WSL (at least, version 2) is that it is a VM running a full version of Linux using Microsoft Hypervisor. There’s a bunch of drivers included that allow Windows and Linux to share filesystems and if you run Wayland/X apps in Linux they run on the Windows desktop.

          • DigitalDilemma@lemmy.mlEnglish
            3·
            4 days ago

            Sharing filesystems could be useful, I can see that.

            I do that with target dev platforms anyway, using things like NFS, samba and sftp, but I do see that it could work well for this.

    • forrcaho@lemmy.world
      10·
      4 days ago

      I only use Windows because I have to work with a corporation’s IT helpdesk staff to get on their VPN if I want to do contract work for them. They are not likely to help me get connected from Linux; they’ll just find another contract dev. Once in, I do everything in Linux because my code will ultimately run in a Linux cloud container of some sort. WSL works well enough for me to do this. I’d rather have Linux on bare metal, but whatever. I’m in; I’m coding; I’m getting paid. I’ll put up with a little bit of suck.

    • Torn Apart By Dogs@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      its for when the reqs include azure ad and the whole office has a m$ fetish yet you still gotta get your bag without losing your decades-built toolset AND you have a choice at all

    • wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      3·
      3 days ago

      Anecdote: I have an IDE that only works on Windows that can build applications for Linux. I use MinGW as part of the packaging process (AND I FUCKING HATE IT OH MY GOD. All of the pathing is broken!). As of yesterday I learned that WSL is a thing that might replace MinGW and make some processes of packaging for linux targets a little easier.

      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 days ago

        I’ve used both. What I can tell you is that moving to WSL is like moving to Linux wholesale. Treat it like porting your toolchain.

        IIRC, MinGW tools will happily take windows style paths (e.g. “C:\Users~myuser\projects”). If your tooling/scripting depends on being able to use Windows style paths, you’ll have to fix that first or you’re going to have a really bad time. There may be other small differences between MinGW tools and what ships on Ubuntu (or whatever Linux you decide to use in the WSL).

    • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      My company only allows us to use the company-provided Windows image, so I do all my work inside a WSL2 tmux session.

      JetBrains IDEs and VSCode also have WSL connectors so it works acceptably well.

      It also handily dodges all the Windows security policies (like installing software). You can even run Xorg apps from it.

      I’m still forced to use MS Teams and Outlook, though…

  • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    153·
    5 days ago

    When using WSL, be sure to not mention anything about that when reporting bugs because that’ll just confuse the issue for the maintainers. They like having that casually mentioned about 20 messages into the troubleshooting process.

    • chingadera@lemmy.world
      6·
      5 days ago

      I’m a big fan of going on WSL forums and letting them know everything is working well for give or take 20 messages, then I let them know I need help troubleshooting.

    • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
      21·
      5 days ago

      Pff, issue reports should ask for the output of ‘uname -ar’. It clearly shows its wsl as wsl runs a special kernel

  • Aux@feddit.ukEnglish
    114·
    4 days ago

    Oh no, Linux users are jealous that Windows is the best distro out there!

    Anyways…