This is a problem with integrity, not AI. If I have AI write me a paper and then proof read it to make sure the information is accurate and properly sourced how is that wrong?
I’ve proofread thousands of newspaper articles as a former newspaper non-journalist over decades.
I’ve written countless bullshit advertorials and also much better copy. I’ve written news articles and streeters from big sports events to get the tickets.
None of that makes me a journalist.
Now I’m in health care. I’m in school for a more advanced paramedic license. How negligent then would it be for me to just proofread AI output when proving I know how to treat someone before being allowed to do so? For physicians and nurses a million times more.
Because education isn’t about writing an essay. In fact, the actual information you learn is the secondary thing you’re there to learn.
Education, especially higher education, is about learning how to think, how to do research, and how to formulate all of that into a cohesive argument. Using AI deprives you of all of that, so you are missing the most important part of your education
Says who? I understand that you value that and I’m sure there are many careers where that actually matters but this is the entire problem with our current education system. The job market is vast and for every job that critical thinking is important, there’s 10 that it isn’t. You are also falling into the trap that school is the only place you can learn that. Education is more than follow X steps and get smart. There’s plenty of ways to learn something and not everyone learns the same way.
Maybe use some critical thinking and figure out a way to evaluate someone’s knowledge without having them write an essay that is easily faked by using AI?
AI isn’t going anywhere and the sooner we embrace it, the sooner we can figure out a way to get around being crippled by it.
Even there you need some basic critical thinking. Wildly impossible figures (e.g a human height of 1.84cm) should not be slavishly and blindly transcribe, y’know?
Imagine you go to a gym. There’s weights you can lift. Instead of lifting them, you use a gas powered machine to pick them up while you sit on the couch with your phone. Sometimes the machine drops weights, or picks up the wrong thing. But you went to the gym and lifted weights, right? They were on the ground, and then they weren’t. Requirements met?
That would be a good analogy if going to school was anything like going to the gym. You sound like one of those old teachers that said “You won’t have a calculator in your pocket the rest of your life.”
Except it is a lot like going to the gym. Most people , on most tasks, only get better when they practice it.
I guarantee you that people who actually write essays with their brain will perform better at a lot of brain tasks than someone who just uses an LLM. You have to exercise those skills.
I’m not disagreeing with you on that. You are missing the point. AI is here to stay and the sooner we accept that, the better off our school system will be.
I am not arguing that using AI makes us smarter. What I’m saying is the only reason people go to school is to make money at their future career. Every company needs an AI specialist right now and instead of working with or around that, schools are trying to outright ban it. If they don’t want people to use it, stop assigning tasks that AI excels at.
What I’m saying is the only reason people go to school is to make money at their future career.
This is capitalist nightmare talk. This is not the only reason people go to school.
Also, even if the tools were good at writing original essays (questionable), people still need to learn how to do it. Even with calculators you spend a lot of time in elementary school learning how to do math without tools.
School is like going to the gym for your brain. In the same way that using a calculator for everything makes you worse at math using chatgpt to read and write your assignments makes you worse at those things than you would be if you did it yourself.
This is a problem with integrity, not AI. If I have AI write me a paper and then proof read it to make sure the information is accurate and properly sourced how is that wrong?
I’ve proofread thousands of newspaper articles as a former newspaper non-journalist over decades.
I’ve written countless bullshit advertorials and also much better copy. I’ve written news articles and streeters from big sports events to get the tickets.
None of that makes me a journalist.
Now I’m in health care. I’m in school for a more advanced paramedic license. How negligent then would it be for me to just proofread AI output when proving I know how to treat someone before being allowed to do so? For physicians and nurses a million times more.
Because education isn’t about writing an essay. In fact, the actual information you learn is the secondary thing you’re there to learn.
Education, especially higher education, is about learning how to think, how to do research, and how to formulate all of that into a cohesive argument. Using AI deprives you of all of that, so you are missing the most important part of your education
Says who? I understand that you value that and I’m sure there are many careers where that actually matters but this is the entire problem with our current education system. The job market is vast and for every job that critical thinking is important, there’s 10 that it isn’t. You are also falling into the trap that school is the only place you can learn that. Education is more than follow X steps and get smart. There’s plenty of ways to learn something and not everyone learns the same way.
Maybe use some critical thinking and figure out a way to evaluate someone’s knowledge without having them write an essay that is easily faked by using AI?
AI isn’t going anywhere and the sooner we embrace it, the sooner we can figure out a way to get around being crippled by it.
Name just one job where critical thinking isn’t important
Every single data entry level positions on the entire planet. Many of these require degrees.
Again it’s not about the school or the skills. It’s about the job market. A degree related to AI is extremely valuable right now.
Even there you need some basic critical thinking. Wildly impossible figures (e.g a human height of 1.84cm) should not be slavishly and blindly transcribe, y’know?
Imagine you go to a gym. There’s weights you can lift. Instead of lifting them, you use a gas powered machine to pick them up while you sit on the couch with your phone. Sometimes the machine drops weights, or picks up the wrong thing. But you went to the gym and lifted weights, right? They were on the ground, and then they weren’t. Requirements met?
That would be a good analogy if going to school was anything like going to the gym. You sound like one of those old teachers that said “You won’t have a calculator in your pocket the rest of your life.”
Except it is a lot like going to the gym. Most people , on most tasks, only get better when they practice it.
I guarantee you that people who actually write essays with their brain will perform better at a lot of brain tasks than someone who just uses an LLM. You have to exercise those skills.
I’m not disagreeing with you on that. You are missing the point. AI is here to stay and the sooner we accept that, the better off our school system will be.
I am not arguing that using AI makes us smarter. What I’m saying is the only reason people go to school is to make money at their future career. Every company needs an AI specialist right now and instead of working with or around that, schools are trying to outright ban it. If they don’t want people to use it, stop assigning tasks that AI excels at.
This is capitalist nightmare talk. This is not the only reason people go to school.
Also, even if the tools were good at writing original essays (questionable), people still need to learn how to do it. Even with calculators you spend a lot of time in elementary school learning how to do math without tools.
School is like going to the gym for your brain. In the same way that using a calculator for everything makes you worse at math using chatgpt to read and write your assignments makes you worse at those things than you would be if you did it yourself.
I’d say it doesn’t make you worse, but instead you’re not improving. But your point still stands.
Worse than you would be if you practiced and learned the fundamentals rather than have a machine do it all for you.