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    I’ll take your shittiest MS Paint meme over your finest AI design.

    I want the human element! I’m not relating to a machine. I want something made by another ghost in a meat suit.

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    Even worse is, many AI generated memes also feel like if they were made from vague prompts the AI did not correctly understood.

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              It’s going to be harder than that to give me a moral quandary. That being said what ai does this? It has jpeg artifacts where the face is from the lines that were added in some sort of photo editing program?

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                It’s copying the artistic style of a popular 4chan artist. Those are generated jpeg artifacts, which are worse than the regular jpeg artifacts.

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        I’ve literally seen that argument repeated almost verbatim in so many comment sections AND in real life

        Like, I can understand why people don’t like AI, but the memes fuckin accurate

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          Yeah, the more people say something, the less true it becomes. Good facts die inside an individual mind without ever being shared.

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          The err… “argument” if you even want to call what I said that, can still hold true even if it’s been written verbatim before.

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            I didn’t say that wasn’t true, but if it’s the go-to phrase of the masses then it’s accurate to put it in an NPC meme. People who dislike AI but don’t understand the tech enough to actually understand why usually give that answer, whereas people with actual knowledge on the subject tend to put more nuance into even their shorter replies on the topic

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          I dislike AI because it produces slop, not because it can’t be original.

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      But that’s all you’ve got. Is a thought. There’s no ingenuity or creativity behind it. It’s soulless. Like a stoner friend who has a great idea for a book but never writes that book.

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      I’ve always seen the anti-AI movement as pro-corporation. It’s mostly for the benefit of the copyright industry while its already quite easy to decouple yourself from the corporate aspects of AI with its open source options.

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        that implies it’s the corporations that make art. the idea of art coming from corps is already a gross injustice to artists, but at least they can get paid a little. to take away what they do entirely for something that literally only remixes existing art from past and present artists is one of the darkest things we’re coming to accept in our late stage capitalist society.

        we simply do not want artists anymore. we’d rather the machines preform every task that’s worth doing so that we can all go slave away at manual labor as human labor continues to get cheaper than machines.

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      It’s not just that. If it was, I’d have been convinced by the new-era freedom fighters using fucking ai horde, or whatever sloppers call their latest open-source [citation needed] model instance.

      The biggest issue is the shameless, continuous abuse of creative workers by sucking up all their works without consent.

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    AI needs to be treated with calm patience. It needs to be contained and observed so we can realise its potential in a safe, contained environment. Instead we’re immediately using it to replace what the wealthy don’t have and can never possess. Born-in talent. Artistry, humour. It’s what you can’t buy. It makes the people capable of creativity high value. And we can’t have that, can we?

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    Libre office draw is also underrated for memes. You can mark sections inside the file and export them to png.

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    Pretty strong reaction to the equivalent of a paint mixer for text…

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    GIMP is not low effort. If you can ‘quickly assemble’ memes, it’s because of previous effort. (I’m studying to be someone who can quickly assemble memes in GIMP)

    That program has a unique UI philosophy. Does it resemble Photoshop? I’ve never used that.

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      Gimp 3.0 is finally actually something you could use to make something quickly

      It still makes some baffling decisions (seriously I fucking hate that deselect is CTRL+SHIFT+D and not CTRL+D. I get why, shift is the “opposite” modifier, but GIMP is the only software I use that does this) and isn’t perfect, but for meme making and general Internet use it’s probably at long-last ready

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      Never used Photoshop either but from the way everyone and their mother compares it to GIMP when complaining about the UI, I think it’s safe to say GIMP sucks in that regard.

      I’m not gonna lie, the few times I’ve used GIMP to crop a picture, I felt lost as hell.

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        GIMP feels like it’s still in the stage of being extremely powerful but awkward as heck to wield, like Blender used to be. Blender used to have a pretty unintuitive interface before getting a massive overhaul a few years back. GIMP could use a similar facelift IMO.

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          Drag never got truly proficient with Photoshop. Drag took a class on Photoshop in high school and did well, but then forgot everything. The workflows never became natural.

          Drag has made dozens of memes in GIMP and really understands the design philosophy. It feels simple and intuitive. Drag wouldn’t want them to change everything and make it like Photoshop. Then drag would have to learn it all over again. No thanks.

          Different apps should just be different apps. The goal isn’t to get every system to have the same UI. There should be room for creativity and thinking differently in the design space.

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    I just find it rich that most of these memes are just made with a website that adds captions… “Hurr durr my 5 clicks are more valid than your 5 clicks”

    Art is the idea and its expression. Bunch of pretentious snobs.

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      I do imagine in a world of verifiably ethical, open source, local software, the choice to click five times in one tool or another would be viewed all but equally.

      “Ethical” being probably the most important descriptor there. A local open source tool that only siphoned up public domain art from consenting artists? Why would that be a big deal?

      Meanwhile if you hear that spirited away guy say he hates AI and then you see his art imitated by it, that’s certainly going to rub many folks the wrong way.

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        You’re a moron. First off, his name is Miazaki, and secondly, that quote is taken out of context. Do you just believe whatever you’re told to believe with no research? Looks like it.

        And AI ethics? Are you fucking serious? Sure, the world is filled with slave labor and corruption and human trafficking and you’re over here defending copyright. The most capitalistic, corporate position you can take.

        If you couldn’t copy someone else’s art style, 99% of Deviant Art wouldn’t even exist. Ffs, painting and sculpture are broken into various periods based on how everything was a certain vibe. Where do you think Surrealism, realism, cubism and other terms come from?

        Hell, this meme was stolen from Fox/Seth MacFarlane. Did OP get permission to steal someone else’s art and plaster text on it? Literally the same ethics you claim to defend.

        These posts really just come across as a bunch of bitter Art Institute graduates who can’t do shit with their “degree”.

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          If you couldn’t copy someone else’s art style, 99% of Deviant Art wouldn’t even exist. Ffs, painting and sculpture are broken into various periods based on how everything was a certain vibe. Where do you think Surrealism, realism, cubism and other terms come from?

          Ironically, if you look at today’s top ‘memes’ in this community you’ll see that they’re all essentially a picture on a white background with text added to the top. Zero effort, zero creativity. Just find a picture, copy paste it into ms paint and put text above it (not even on the picture itself).

          you’re over here defending copyright. The most capitalistic, corporate position you can take.

          100%

          A lot of people on Lemmy will self identify as being left of center and then run around promoting the idea that people can own ideas in perpetuity. Which is very much a right wing authoritarian idea.