• FriendBesto@lemmy.ml
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      Tell that to Africans, and to a few South American countries, they are the only ones who are not crashing and have a viable replacement rate above 2.1… and then some.

      If you were really concerned about over population that is what one would do, but no one here would have the guts for ideological reasons or for fear of being even remotely perceived as possibly a racist. Despite objective statistics. /s

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          Now it’s even more depressing because that means humans have been using children as a tool to create social security, knowing full well that most of them will suffer and die at an early age.

          It’s a pyramid scheme played with (literally) innocent people at the expense of an insane amount of suffering and death.

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    Yeah but don’t stop having kids because we need underpaid nursing home staff to work in the hell we made.

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    Stop having kids. No, it won’t prevent the climate from going to shit. Yes, it will prevent you from creating new victims.

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      The only thing Evil (aka. suffering, disease, war,…) needs to exist is that ‘good’ people continue to have children.

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      But… but… who will grow the economy so we can get the first trillionaire? Humanity has never existed with less than 2 billion people. Suggesting that lower than replacement birth rates are possible is eco fascist!!1 /s

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        The reality of closing schools, rotting infrastructure, and an aging destitute population that comes from population decline is going to be rough to live through. It’s good for the planet I suppose, but us humans living in this human system are going to suffer.

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    It’s gonna be awesome when we’re old and need end of life care and the younger generations are too poor to help us and too stupid to help us even if they weren’t poor.

    We’re headed into a very, very stupid and depressing future. And it’s 100% avoidable.

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    When they don’t get to grow up. The species expires. Good job OG&E, way to go. Stupid greedy corporate shills. 😓

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    And people say I’m somehow selfish or pathetic for not wanting to give any possible kids an undue burden, even assuming they are a white cis-male able-bodied person, the exact thing a fascist wants in this nation.

    It’s just foolish or genuinely spiteful to have kids in this time. Even if you can give them a good childhood, healthy, happy, nothing wrong with em at all, you can’t fix the climate.

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      I’ve never thought that anyone was selfish or pathetic for choosing not to have kids, but it’s odd to suggest that it’s foolish or spiteful to have kids now.

      Kids now will face climate change, but their lives will be better than the vast majority of their ancestors. Imagine if your ancestors decided not to have children because they were worried about food insecurity or warring tribes or sabre-toothed tigers.

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          That’s indisputable.

          However I think you can understand why others like myself would prefer that humankind has existed and continues to do so.

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        If there was a meteor about to destroy all life within a year, bringing kids into that would be widely acknowledged as unethical. Many people believe that doesn’t change just because the timeframe is longer.

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          There is no existential threat like a meteor though.

          Sure, climate change is a big deal. It’s going to cause famine and war. We need to take action to address it both in the short, medium, and long term.

          However, climate change is not going to make earth uninhabitable.

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        Ah yes, the environment being fucked, causing issues with water, weather, crops, animals, is exactly the same as if you wondered off, you might have been attacked by an animal.

        Dumbest take possible. Don’t have kids, you’ll spread your stupidity and doom them to the climate change holocaust.

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          I’m not suggesting that tigers are the same as climate change.

          Merely pointing out that despite the challenges presented by climate change kids today will enjoy a must better lifestyle than almost all of their ancestors.