President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn’t expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn’t commit to the same for Greenland.

“Something could happen with Greenland, I’ll be honest,” Trump said in an interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that aired on Sunday.  He said that “we need that for national and international security,” but he added “I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it.”

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      Greenland is part of Denmark, so attacking it ought to trigger NATO Article 5. I’m pretty sure NATO ex-US is capable of putting up a fight too, even if the 50k people who live in Greenland themselves could not.

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          They’re going to use the cia. Trump would use proxy forces to invade under the guise of assisting a rebellion. He can find an opposition political leader, declare him the leader (in this case, declare Greenland to be soverign from Denmark) and then absorb greenland.

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            Nope, not possible.

            Everything would leak worse than hegseth because they all think it’s stupid and have more friends in Europe than here.

            The CIA would love to bring this regime down, they hate the worthless inbred southern fried junta more than anyone.

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          Put up a fight?

          Nah, more like encourage our trash to attack, then slide in right behind them.

          We’d let the canadians help us give them what they deserve.

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          I’d be happy to join a Canadian foreign legion. I view protecting Canada from foreign aggression my patriotic duty as a fellow human being, and neighbor.

          Besides, once upon a time I swore an oath to protect my country from threats foreign and domestic, so I am honor bound to fight alongside Canada against the biggest threat the US has ever faced.

          I’m not sure how many Americans would join me, or how receptive Canadians would even be to a bunch of tacticool looking non-professionals with guns showing up and CLAIMING to want to help, but I’m positive there will be americans fighting back. Whether it’s on the front lines with guns, or with sabotage in the states, who can say.

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            I’m in my fifties so I have no illusions about my combat effectiveness, but I took that same oath and I would obey it in the same way for the same reasons. Plus I’m like 75 miles from the border. If the lines moved just a little afterward, I could wind up Canadian anyway.

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              I suspect sabotage would be the best use of most American allies. Pipelines, power lines, railroads, bridges, America has plenty of those just lying around undefended. And many of them are a stiff breeze away from collapsing on their own anyway.

              Blowing up or burning down a few might not have much direct impact on America’s warfighting capabilities, but forcing the American military to divert huge amounts of manpower to protect all of that would. Not to mention increasing the likely-alreayd-extreme discontent at the government.

              And, of course, assassinations when you can manage it. (Ooh, this isn’t Reddit, I can say such things without being [ Removed ])

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        I mean, all of the might of United States military had trouble with the Afghani insurgents. Now, just imagine Canadian insurgents who speak the same language, look exactly like you, and know your history better than you do. No city in the continental United States will be safe.

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        I’m not so sure about that. I could easily imagine him thinking “that’s just Europe, we can win this”.

        I’m fairly sure that he thinks the same about Canada, but that’s probably just too close to home to start a war. The US prefers to fight far away from home.

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        Or see how fast they withdraw from NATO and form a new alliance.

        According to Article 13 of the 1949 NATO treaty, members can declare their withdrawal, but the document does not provide for a member to be expelled. The only measure the treaty provides to sanction serious violations of the alliance’s principles is a joint decision by the other member states to restrict or suspend cooperation.

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          The US military is such an essential part of NATO that if they don’t withdraw, a new alliance should definitely be made.

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    I consider the US our enemy. Even if we come to an agreement at this point, it’s the duty of every Canadian to backstab the US when such an opportunity arises. There can no longer be peaceful co-existence unless the US is split apart. Every Canadian employed by an american employer should start stealing IP and sabotaging operations. This is just the beginning.

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      This is plain dumb and the same rhetoric that got America into its fascist me first bullshit policy in the first place.

      The system got hijacked. The people speaking out are getting arrested and deported to a foreign death camp. The US will course correct, or need help doing so.

      Sit your militant LARPIng troll ass down and let the adults figure this shit out. A war is not good for either country, nor is a need for constant paranoia like you’re suggesting.

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        “Im gonna punch you but calm down. Stop acting tough. Punching me back will only escalate things. Thats how we got here in the first place. Its your fault Im gonna punch you.”

        This is why the world hates Americans right now.

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    If we need Greenland so bad how is it we’ve been just fine leaving them the fuck alone since forever?

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      The claim we need it for safety and security is bs considering we have probably more service members there than there are people in Nuuk.

      Its all about minerals, which we have no claim to. If Greenland were a territory, the federal government would have full control over the entire thing. US territories are modern day colonies basically

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        Other real (albeit idiotic) reasons might include Putin feeding Trump the idea of the US having control of the newly ice-free Northwest Passage, or just a sheer megalomaniacal desire to secure his legacy via territorial expansion.

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    The fact that he’s even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.

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    Every word from this Orange Turd is treason. Their needs to be a trial and he needs to never see the light of day again.

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      He also said he’s not sure if we need to uphold due process in all situations. I’m willing to concede the point in his case if it means we can hang him tomorrow.

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    Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.

    That’s not what a russian asset would do…

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        Well shit… I don’t know how I did not see this angle. He doesn’t even have to deal with the back lash of dead US soldiers for a war nobody in their right mind will support… he just needs to present a legitimate enough threat to divide NATO forces. For fucks sake, I can’t wait for the morning I wake up to find out he is dead. Edited a word