President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn’t expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn’t commit to the same for Greenland.
“Something could happen with Greenland, I’ll be honest,” Trump said in an interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that aired on Sunday. He said that “we need that for national and international security,” but he added “I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it.”
Why is he so obsessed with Greenland?
He probably thinks it’s actually green.
Cause Peter Thiel (billionaire) wants to build a billionaire’s bunker there for the apocalypse.
Natural resources perhaps?
Easy target from his perspective. Would draw Nato resources away from Ukraine, so his boss would be pleased.
When Trump does something incomprehensibly useless from an American perspective, always ask “What’s in it for Putin?” and you may find you get answers.
Theres a few reasons but it would be a huge military advantage, not that I agree with it
Mineral resources, especially since the ice is melting. They don’t believe in global warming but they accept that the ice cap is melting. Then there are fishing rights around it. Finally it would control a chunk of the arctic ocean at a time when the north ice cap is melting.
They believe in global warming. They just say they don’t because they’re lying psychopaths who would kill millions for their own gain.
Shipping routes will be there in the not-so-far future when the ice is gone.
Translation:
Canada would probably put up a fight, and bullies only pick on those too weak to resist.
Greenland is part of Denmark, so attacking it ought to trigger NATO Article 5. I’m pretty sure NATO ex-US is capable of putting up a fight too, even if the 50k people who live in Greenland themselves could not.
This comment alone put more thought into the strategic situation of Greenland than Trump ever has.
They’re going to use the cia. Trump would use proxy forces to invade under the guise of assisting a rebellion. He can find an opposition political leader, declare him the leader (in this case, declare Greenland to be soverign from Denmark) and then absorb greenland.
Nope, not possible.
Everything would leak worse than hegseth because they all think it’s stupid and have more friends in Europe than here.
The CIA would love to bring this regime down, they hate the worthless inbred southern fried junta more than anyone.
That’s true, but how many leaks have you seen regarding the CIA’s operations in Venezuela?
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-cia-venezuela-maduro-regime-change-plot/
The US recognized a right-winger as the rightful president of Venezuela and even had most the US believing it. No leaks at all.
Because they wanted to take down Venezuela.
Taking down Greenland doesn’t help them and it strengthens Trump, which is bad for them.
They want him weak and helpless, a failure at their mercy.
Expect that.
The Geneva Convention is gonna get another page
I’m not Canadian, but it’s seems obvious to me Canada would definitely put up a fight
A lot of Americans would also put up a fight on the side of Canadians
Put up a fight?
Nah, more like encourage our trash to attack, then slide in right behind them.
We’d let the canadians help us give them what they deserve.
I feel some of that Canadian pride myself, and I’ve never even been to Canada.
I’d be happy to join a Canadian foreign legion. I view protecting Canada from foreign aggression my patriotic duty as a fellow human being, and neighbor.
Besides, once upon a time I swore an oath to protect my country from threats foreign and domestic, so I am honor bound to fight alongside Canada against the biggest threat the US has ever faced.
I’m not sure how many Americans would join me, or how receptive Canadians would even be to a bunch of tacticool looking non-professionals with guns showing up and CLAIMING to want to help, but I’m positive there will be americans fighting back. Whether it’s on the front lines with guns, or with sabotage in the states, who can say.
Service guarantees citizenship!
I’m in my fifties so I have no illusions about my combat effectiveness, but I took that same oath and I would obey it in the same way for the same reasons. Plus I’m like 75 miles from the border. If the lines moved just a little afterward, I could wind up Canadian anyway.
I suspect sabotage would be the best use of most American allies. Pipelines, power lines, railroads, bridges, America has plenty of those just lying around undefended. And many of them are a stiff breeze away from collapsing on their own anyway.
Blowing up or burning down a few might not have much direct impact on America’s warfighting capabilities, but forcing the American military to divert huge amounts of manpower to protect all of that would. Not to mention increasing the likely-alreayd-extreme discontent at the government.
And, of course, assassinations when you can manage it. (Ooh, this isn’t Reddit, I can say such things without being [ Removed ])
I mean, all of the might of United States military had trouble with the Afghani insurgents. Now, just imagine Canadian insurgents who speak the same language, look exactly like you, and know your history better than you do. No city in the continental United States will be safe.
Nevermind that there’d be about 70% of the population sympathetic to their situation. That’s a recipe for a lot of citizens sabotaging and/or helping them instead of us.
Sympathetic?
We share the same enemy, and most of the world has for centuries, time to watch the dixiecrats pay.
look exactly like you
There are subtle differences if you know what you’re looking for.
Eh, keep quiet, buddy!
I am not your buddy, guy!
Everything you said, and the longest un defended border in the world. Imagine if the Taliban could drive to major US cities.
Imagine if 95% of the Taliban lived within 100 miles of that boarder, too lol
And spoke perfect English and were undistinguishable from US citizens on sight. And numbered 40 million.
And Trump genuinely doesn’t understand that would be war with the EU.
I’m not so sure about that. I could easily imagine him thinking “that’s just Europe, we can win this”.
I’m fairly sure that he thinks the same about Canada, but that’s probably just too close to home to start a war. The US prefers to fight far away from home.
Maybe when he starts WW3 we can call him a nazi without people playing dumb like he isn’t
Put NATO forces there so the US would invoke the mutual defense clause.
US Sends Troops to Greenland to Defend it From US Troops
Or see how fast they withdraw from NATO and form a new alliance.
According to Article 13 of the 1949 NATO treaty, members can declare their withdrawal, but the document does not provide for a member to be expelled. The only measure the treaty provides to sanction serious violations of the alliance’s principles is a joint decision by the other member states to restrict or suspend cooperation.
The US military is such an essential part of NATO that if they don’t withdraw, a new alliance should definitely be made.
There are already NATO forces there. Specifically Denmark and USA
Well the US forces are the issue, right? Denmark has neglected Greenland militarily for years. Under the NATO treaty they don’t HAVE to respond to an attack on a member so if there were forces from other members there it would greatly increase the likelihood of a joint response.
I consider the US our enemy. Even if we come to an agreement at this point, it’s the duty of every Canadian to backstab the US when such an opportunity arises. There can no longer be peaceful co-existence unless the US is split apart. Every Canadian employed by an american employer should start stealing IP and sabotaging operations. This is just the beginning.
This is plain dumb and the same rhetoric that got America into its fascist me first bullshit policy in the first place.
The system got hijacked. The people speaking out are getting arrested and deported to a foreign death camp. The US will course correct, or need help doing so.
Sit your militant LARPIng troll ass down and let the adults figure this shit out. A war is not good for either country, nor is a need for constant paranoia like you’re suggesting.
“Im gonna punch you but calm down. Stop acting tough. Punching me back will only escalate things. Thats how we got here in the first place. Its your fault Im gonna punch you.”
This is why the world hates Americans right now.
Trump sounds more like Putin every hour.
And y’know what? The US would still lose.
Only if that kid was a better shot.
Bullies don’t attack people they’re scared of.
If we need Greenland so bad how is it we’ve been just fine leaving them the fuck alone since forever?
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It’ll become more and more important as the north pole melts.
The claim we need it for safety and security is bs considering we have probably more service members there than there are people in Nuuk.
Its all about minerals, which we have no claim to. If Greenland were a territory, the federal government would have full control over the entire thing. US territories are modern day colonies basically
Other real (albeit idiotic) reasons might include Putin feeding Trump the idea of the US having control of the newly ice-free Northwest Passage, or just a sheer megalomaniacal desire to secure his legacy via territorial expansion.
The fact that he’s even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.
Every word from this Orange Turd is treason. Their needs to be a trial and he needs to never see the light of day again.
He also said he’s not sure if we need to uphold due process in all situations. I’m willing to concede the point in his case if it means we can hang him tomorrow.
Don’t see it Canada? Sure come on in, start a nuclear war you fucking tard.
I look forward to his funeral
The Margaret Thatcher of the US.
It’s a little different:
Thatcher fucked the kids.
Donald Trump fucks kids.
Maggie the milk snatcher vs. Donnie the Diddler.
Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.
That’s not what a russian asset would do…
Forcing the UN to split their forces between Ukraine and Greenland…
Totally not what a Russian asset would do.
Well shit… I don’t know how I did not see this angle. He doesn’t even have to deal with the back lash of dead US soldiers for a war nobody in their right mind will support… he just needs to present a legitimate enough threat to divide NATO forces. For fucks sake, I can’t wait for the morning I wake up to find out he is dead. Edited a word
The UN is not an alliance. Perhaps you were thinking of NATO?