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        Ok but how do programs under Gnome display state? (temperature and stuff like that)

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          They don’t.
          Programs only show themselves when you take an action (hit a key) or when it’s urgent (in a notification).
          Otherwise they’re supposed to stay invisible.

          So in Gnome philosophy, your sensor would notify you when the temp goes critical and otherwise you’d have to open it manually.

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        thank you for this it is interesting to know their rationale. but i still disagree with it, i think it makes life using the computer more comfortable, it is a good way of managing apps that usually operate unattended and everyone is used to it and expects or relies on this functionality.

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          everyone is used to it

          Counterpoint: The main criticism of Gnome seems to be that it doesn’t match the design philosophy of Windows 95, which users are used to.
          But at this point, an entire human generation later, and 14 years after the release of Gnome 3, I don’t think that’s a valid criticism anymore.

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        They’re an old spec from 2002

        They’re useful, “old” is no excuse. Mobile OS have something similiar. No, don’t create a new spec, you’re bad at that kind of thing.

        They’re too small to click for people with increased accessibility needs

        Make them bigger? I can do that on XFCE.

        They serve the needs of app publishers (making their app visible at all times), not those of the user

        There are too many of them

        Again, they are useful to the user. Just give the user a way to control which to display or not.

        They look bad

        Your design team sucks

        And that’s why i don’t like Gnome (and Gtk for that matter); they prioritize their skewed visions over everything else, including usability.

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          They’re useful, “old” is no excuse.

          the above tl;dr forgot something massive: all current protocols are unsafe (e.g. need exporting the entirety of org.kde.* in dbus) and/or only work on X11