• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    2 days ago

    It isn’t just risky, but I feel many times it ends up legitimizing the groups you’re trying to protect others from.

    Fascists don’t need you to justify their fascism.

    • John Richard@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      I tend to agree, but not entirely.

      The point I was making here is you start sabotaging & can end up harming people that may have been allies. As they say, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions.

      Second, the more you start demanding people do what you want else you’ll sabotage, attack them, etc… Your ideas really aren’t that much different than those of fascists either.

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        6 hours ago

        The point I was making here is you start sabotaging & can end up harming people that may have been allies

        How? The call to sabotage was against fascist programs, like surveillance, illegal arrests, etc. How would sabotaging those hurt people who could have been allies?

        Second, the more you start demanding people do what you want else you’ll sabotage, attack them, etc

        That is nowhere near what is happening here. We have a system of laws that is being broken. Nobody was calling for sabotage when those laws were followed. But people who use less aggressive methods to combat fascism, i.e. writing op-eds, speaking publicly against administration policies, leading protests, have started facing punishments. They are preventing the normal exercise of civilian power, so we have to escalate to sabotage or similar actions. That doesn’t make us like fascists because we are not the ones defying and breaking existing social norms and laws. This is a ridiculous argument.