We were headed down the conservative path, strange to think that the Trump regime saved our asses by being so insufferably horrible that the entire country woke up. Very grateful today that we have a functional adult behind the wheel during this difficult period
Over 40% wanted some aspect of the vote. Local Candidate, party or leader or other aspects. His own riding didn’t want him. Lol! :D
Others still just didn’t like the other parties as options. Extreme fringe elements like the various flavours of white supremacists just clung to something that would embrace them under the big tent.
Super pissed off FPTP is still a thing. My riding was quite interesting this year. Polls showed a safe conservative win with NDP slightly behind and liberals at barely anything. What actually happened was a huge number of liberal votes compared to what was expected and less conservative and NDP votes as a result. The conservatives won with only ~38% of the vote vs the over 50% they were showing in the polls. I can almost garuntee that if we had ranked choice, either NDP or liberals would have won. It’s very frustrating as I’m certain a lot of the left leaning voters were focusing on a national level and not a local one.
It is amazing to witness a nation learning from another nation’s mistake. It’s such a smart, sensible thing to do. Voters in Canada were able to identify a pattern, imagine the consequences happening to themselves, and make a decision to not do the same failed thing as the U.S.
That’s gotta be a crucial distinction between Canada and the U.S.
Here in the U.S., people ignore and downplay patterns (especially if the patterns hurt their feelings.) When pressed to explain an identical set of patterns, we’re more likely to blame whoever is experiencing the patterns for causing them than to critically analyze the cause and effect surrounding them. [Examples I’ve heard through my life: “Poor people suffer because they’re drug addicts.” “Women don’t get paid as much as men do because women are worse workers than men.” “Black people live in violent neighborhoods because they’re inherently violent.”]
Too many of us are entrenched in the propaganda-sphere; we are too arrogant, vocal, and either unwilling or unable to engage in critical thought against our zeitgeist. I imagine that if the situation were flipped and Canada had been the first to fall to fascism, the U.S. would still follow. After all, if another country messed up, it’s because they did it wrong. But we’re too special, too important, Too Big to Fail™, so we could do the exact same thing and be confident that [consequence] could never happen to us.
Lotsa shocked Pikachu faces going around these days…
We’re still heading towards a conservative path, although a more moderate one, with carney being center-right, and the conservatives holding almost half the seats.
Canada’s saving grace is that we have more than two parties. Liberals can’t rely on the conservatives being worst than them as much as the Democrats do with the Republicans.
Liberals are a 3 day old deli sandwich. And when Canadians say they want change the Conservatives show up telling you they’re warm, fresh, and all-natural. Somehow half the population fails to recognize its horse shit!
Our 2.1 party system is what needs to change, and we need to be increasingly vocal about how high a priority that needs to be.
We were headed down the conservative path, strange to think that the Trump regime saved our asses by being so insufferably horrible that the entire country woke up. Very grateful today that we have a functional adult behind the wheel during this difficult period
Still, over 40% of Canadians voters wanted pp. That number is too high. Also fuuuuuuuuck fptp
Over 40% wanted some aspect of the vote. Local Candidate, party or leader or other aspects. His own riding didn’t want him. Lol! :D
Others still just didn’t like the other parties as options. Extreme fringe elements like the various flavours of white supremacists just clung to something that would embrace them under the big tent.
You’re correct, but because the leaders of the party aren’t actively distancing themselves from those fringe groups, they are complicit
Absolutely. I did say “embraced”.
Most wanted change and not Peter rabbithair.
We need electoral reform in Canada.
Super pissed off FPTP is still a thing. My riding was quite interesting this year. Polls showed a safe conservative win with NDP slightly behind and liberals at barely anything. What actually happened was a huge number of liberal votes compared to what was expected and less conservative and NDP votes as a result. The conservatives won with only ~38% of the vote vs the over 50% they were showing in the polls. I can almost garuntee that if we had ranked choice, either NDP or liberals would have won. It’s very frustrating as I’m certain a lot of the left leaning voters were focusing on a national level and not a local one.
A common occurrence it feels like
Well that and Lil’PP not being able to distance himself from his “Trump-lite” image because that would have turned away a big chunk of his base.
I… I can’t envision a world where conservatism doesn’t beget more conservatism…
What a strange utopia you Canadians have
It is amazing to witness a nation learning from another nation’s mistake. It’s such a smart, sensible thing to do. Voters in Canada were able to identify a pattern, imagine the consequences happening to themselves, and make a decision to not do the same failed thing as the U.S.
That’s gotta be a crucial distinction between Canada and the U.S.
Here in the U.S., people ignore and downplay patterns (especially if the patterns hurt their feelings.) When pressed to explain an identical set of patterns, we’re more likely to blame whoever is experiencing the patterns for causing them than to critically analyze the cause and effect surrounding them. [Examples I’ve heard through my life: “Poor people suffer because they’re drug addicts.” “Women don’t get paid as much as men do because women are worse workers than men.” “Black people live in violent neighborhoods because they’re inherently violent.”]
Too many of us are entrenched in the propaganda-sphere; we are too arrogant, vocal, and either unwilling or unable to engage in critical thought against our zeitgeist. I imagine that if the situation were flipped and Canada had been the first to fall to fascism, the U.S. would still follow. After all, if another country messed up, it’s because they did it wrong. But we’re too special, too important, Too Big to Fail™, so we could do the exact same thing and be confident that [consequence] could never happen to us.
Lotsa shocked Pikachu faces going around these days…
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We’re still heading towards a conservative path, although a more moderate one, with carney being center-right, and the conservatives holding almost half the seats.
Canada’s saving grace is that we have more than two parties. Liberals can’t rely on the conservatives being worst than them as much as the Democrats do with the Republicans.
Liberals won by less than a million votes.
Does this map suggest that is going to happen again?
Some Americans avoided voting for Democrats because Israel.
Some Canadians avoided voting liberal because “we need change.”.
It stops being politics when neo-fascists take over. Then it becomes survival. When your government wages war on YOU, the people.
Just ask the Americans.
I fucking hate “it’s time for a change”.
Liberals are a 3 day old deli sandwich. And when Canadians say they want change the Conservatives show up telling you they’re warm, fresh, and all-natural. Somehow half the population fails to recognize its horse shit!
Our 2.1 party system is what needs to change, and we need to be increasingly vocal about how high a priority that needs to be.
Your conservatives didn’t steal the vote. Ours did.
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
https://youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs
https://youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0
https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta