“As someone who plays a lesbian journalist on ‘The Morning Show,’ I am more offended by it as a lesbian than I am as a Jew,” the actress said at another point in a new interview.

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      Hate the Israeli government and their actions.

      Do not hate Jews. Ever.

      One is a state. The other is a race of people.

      If you must, hate Judaism even. Do not hate Jews.

      One is a faith. The other is a people.

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        If you must, hate Judaism even.

        Precisely. My Jewish friends who are atheist don’t like Judaism or Israel either.

        Plenty of people who are of Jewish descent don’t ascribe to the religion and hold animosity to Israel (mostly for how it makes people think all Jews are terrible, due to the actions of Israel.).

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        Do we actually define jews as a race? I thought we stopped with that… They are a people, not a race.

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          I mean, race is a human construct anyway. We’re all human. We can all fuck and reproduce viable offspring. We’re all the same species, and the difference in our looks was historically driven by geographic separation which resulted in different “looks” based on locality. We don’t have that geographic separation anymore and its only a few more hundred years before we all generally look alike, worldwide.

          I think it has more to do with that tricky thing about the Jewish faith where it doesn’t matter if you believe in Judaism or not, if your mother was Jewish, you’re considered “Jewish” no matter your rejection of the faith. I remember a David Cross bit about it.

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          From an empirical standpoint, the concept of “race” can be useful sometimes, like black people have higher rates of Sickle Cell (and being treated poorly by ignorant people of many other races, regardless of class and other factors), while white people have higher rates of Cystic Fibrosis (and in most of the Western world, a higher rate of acting entitled).

          Jewish people are not technically a race bc anyone at all can become a Jew by conversion, but as a whole they do often tend to intermarry (or used to in the past?), which does lead to some traits being shared in common, especially visible when combined with similar cultural choices to look or act or sound a certain way.

          So you are right, but… I’m not certain that all instances of the opposite line of thinking is entirely wrong either, especially depending on how it is used.

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        No fuck that. Just don’t hate any of it. Israel is a country. Likud are a party. You debate the party, you work to vote them out of office. You do not hate a country for the party.

        What you think you’re saying and what you’re actually saying are not the same. You think you’re saving Jews when what you’re doing is giving credence to hating them via the conduit of hating their nation.

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        I’ve been saying it for years: the Jews deserve so much better than the government of Israel. They’ve been through enough shit, they deserve to not be under the rule of a corrupt far-right government hellbent on committing as many human rights violations as possible. JUST ONCE AT LEAST. C’mon universe, work with us here.

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      All Jewish people are not Israeli.

      All Israeli people are not fascists. BiBi’s approval ratings are in the 20’s.

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      If you hate Jews because of what Israel is doing, you’re antisemitic. Full stop.

      An entire people are not to blame for what a single country’s government and military are doing.