This post is “FYI only” for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.
I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the “adult human female” dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and “civil disagreement” on the validity of trans folk.
I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to “sort it out through discussion and voting”. However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little “sorting out” has occurred. The posts remain in place.
At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.
I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.
World next please
Genuine/ignorant question: why?
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Thanks Ada!
I hope the feddit.uk admins reconsider their approach to moderating transphobia, but in the mean time I appreciate your protective stance. 💗
Thanks for doing good moderation, honestly it sucks that certain admin teams act like this and dont take bigotry seriously.
If instances aren’t willing to moderate themselves when it comes to transphobia they should get the boot. I hope more instances defederate feddit.uk over this. Might make them change course and rethink if they should maybe moderate better.
Ada trying not to slay challenge (Impossible)
I think if you want your users to avoid stuff like this you shouldn’t put in a spotlight like you did here.
I want the community to have a choice. Federation lets people have that choice.
This is called transparency, not putting it in a spotlight. We don’t close our eyes from the world, we just don’t want to be confronted with hate and discrimination everywhere and have nobody do anything about it. So if drastic actions like this have to be taken to achieve this, it’s good to be informed about that.
Sentiment here seems to be appreciation for the actions taken, so why do you think you can speak for us on this behalf?
I spoke for myself, because i found something weird in the post, what makes you think i spoke for you?
You’re not a lbz user. The user you’re replying to is. This impacts her, not you.
Yes.
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I apologize for sounding so confrontational, but I didn’t think it was fair of you to judge Ada like this when you’re not affected by this.
Thanks for your opinion, @[email protected]. Note that nobody asked, and Ada specifically stated in the post that this is not the place for you to chime in with your enlightened thoughts about our instance.
“enlightened”
You’re welcome
This is the way.
I approve. Good work.
As a denizen of terf island myself, all I can say is; fucking good! Our enemies hide behind statements like “just asking questions”, but there’s no room for debate when it comes to people’s rights and look where that thinking has gotten us.
The time for debate is over. I want my rights back.
thank u adaaaaa! luv u!
Common Ada W
Stay classy, TERF Island.
Thank you for taking real direct action on issues like this. It keeps our community safe.
Blahaj admins try not to be based challenge (impossible)
Bubble, echo chamber, besieged fortress syndrome… Combined they make what Ada envisions the blahaj.zone to be.
I mean what the fuck, just ban the person you don’t like.
Bubble, echo chamber, besieged fortress syndrome…
Hmm, maybe we should consider this viewpoint on its own merits. Oh wait
I mean what the fuck, just ban the person you don’t like.
B does not follow A.
Users who don’t like what an instance is doing can register with a new instance.
Trans people must permanently see people saying they are bad because they exist. How dare they want a place where they arent constantly blamed for something they didnt do
/s
u mad bro?
it’s .ml ofc
Is that a known problem instance?
tankies
Disclaimer: long-time member of lemmy.ml
It’s not really a problem instance for most people, and it’s a pretty diverse one as far as explicitly leftist communities go. It’s the original instance created by the original Lemmy devs, who are openly Marxist-Leninist communists. That’s a big part of how Lemmy has generally remained anti-corporate and anti-capitalist, why it’s not covered with ads and awards and karma gamification and all that junk.
Until the relatively-recent reddit API exodus, the biggest instances were lemmy.ml (general purpose for FOSS tech and left-wing, with all kinds of socialists present), Lemmygrad.ml (Marxist-Leninist-only), and Hexbear.net (dirtbag left). Lemmygrad got a negative reputation among a lot of ex-redditors because of their overall campist, anti-Western positions and critical support of traditional enemies of the US, while Hexbear joined federation later, had built a culture of crass trolling methods to keep visiting conservatives and other capitalists away, and surprised everyone by how large they were, creating an illusion of brigading whenever a post was big enough to get to their front page and gain a sudden influx of Hexbear users mocking them. All three of these communities also had a strict interpretation of anti-bigotry and anti-chauvinism, to the point where echoing a pretty common (albeit unknowingly racist) black-and-white American understanding of countries like Russia and China could be enough to get a ban, leading people used to a pro-Western media bubble to just dismiss these instances as being intolerant echo chambers who ban people for disagreeing, when they were really getting banned for unintentionally and unknowingly being bigoted or spreading misinformation. Hexbear and Lemmygrad have been defederated by a few instances.
Hence, the other reply, just saying “tankies” (a perjorative that can mean basically anything these days).
Woah I didn’t know tankie was a pejorative. I thought it was just a cheeky but cute (and honestly kind of charming) way to refer to auth left political philosophy.
I’m amazed you ended up on lemmy.ml, we’ve been banning bigots for years. Solidarity with Blahaj on this one.
Agreed. It’s like they want to live in a bubble. Astonishing how the disconnection from reality doesn’t hit them.
What bubble? How which disconnect from reality doesn’t hit whom? Go on, be specific.
'Cause I’m inclined to believe you nutters are trapped in a bubble of believing that any group of people who doesn’t like having you around is in actuality some sort of echo chamber that it’s your god-given right, nay, duty to disrupt. It’s kinda embarrassing tbh.
Funny how the cries of censorship always seem to come from people who don’t actually care about the topic and just want to be edgy debate perverts for the sake of it. Heaven forbid a group of trans people have a space where we don’t have to justify our existence.
you didn’t read shit did you? these folks have the absolute right not to have to constantly argue to justify their existence. until the shit heels of society catch up then they damn right should be in a bubble that those of us who give a damn about human rights are more than willing to respect and protect.
