Yes, and now not just cringe gamers are using that electricity. At least that was an experience wholely unique, this is people delegating thought, artistry, and processing. Meaning now it can be use for passive things in day to day life.
The increase then can be measured by any time that wasnt spent on gaming, now needing a large enough mole hill to want and circumvent. Gaming already was escapism of social cognizant responsibilities, I say this as a dude who spent every 80 hours a week on gaming, and have 11k hours in league.
Circumventing these things outside of gaming will essentially lead to a dependency. I hardly trust adults to self govern, but kids I can see being swindled by the ‘ability’ granted. Rather than the dependency and lack of one’s innate thought and memory.
It just makes me scared, no I dont think it will ever fully replace a person’s mind, but it will grasp it. It can make a person doubtful of themselves and in doubt we are most persuadable. With recent politics nationwide trying to turn into fascist states fundamentally built on hate, I do not want kids to be raised persuaded without their will. While also removing part of their learning capabilities and reducing their capacity.
Cities will seem like labor mills to house the slaves, while being more aware of freedom than those truly free.
C’mon man Matrix was on this shit, if that’s too boring try adventure time.
I think that to a degree we’re buying into the showmanship and claims of AI companies concerning the future, when the reality is that there are hard limits to the functionality of generative AI and LLMs. They want us to think that they’re building Rocco’s Basilisk because that’s some good terrifying viral marketing. But it isn’t true.
I’ve personally tried these tools at home. I’ve got LM Studio and ComfyUI on my PC. They’re novel and all, but they do have a hard limit to usefulness. You cannot rely on an information tool that returns the wrong information half the time. Not because it’s annoying but because people want and need to get stuff done, and ultimately AI will get in the way of getting stuff done.
It does not matter about the limit, if they can convince people to sell out. The kids are still fucked and delayed. Your dismissiveness devalues the harm a tool like this can do. Just how the internet spread rapidly facilatating crime and is only recently being wrangled. Social existence is centralized, intelligence can be too - then it can be sold at a subscription. With you the creator losing all ownership.
It’s just the head of the iceberg. Soon the rest will melt too.
I think the future will be somewhere between what we consider normal now and the austere dystopia you envision. This AI shit certainly isn’t making the world any better, that’s for sure.
Honestly that’s not what I envision, that’s just an extension of every fear in media and religious philosophy. From the buddhist one is all, that extends the rammifications of every action. To the Christian ideals of god creating ‘life’. Fallout 4 and Synths. Cyberpunk and Soul Killer. Full Metal Alchemist and the philosopher’s stone/homunculi.
The goal of those in power is to replace the people they need to be in power. This can progress to be much more. We are on the stepping stones of giants and you must assess the ripples. AI is being fed to the masses for a reason, it can facilitate 1984-esque control of information. We are already seeing thought crimes being implicated on people through their immigration processes. Along with thought crimes already being the prime directive behind piracy.
You do not steal, you are theoretically losing them money and that is seen as worth incarceration. Even if it was something you wouldn’t purchase or support. They spread the internet before the ramifications became apparent. AI is next if man does not heed.
Oh there’s no question, humanity will be dumber because of AI. I’ve already seen it, and it JUST started. Imagine it in 10 years with how good it is. AI babies are the new ipad babies. There will be zero thinking for yourself, zero problem solving ability. And those of us who shun it will be called the idiots. Mark my words.
Yeah I did forget to consider that a lot of the web hosted models have a whole array of “experts” - Sub-LLMs that help fill in specialized information that a more generalized LLM wouldn’t have. Not a problem for someone running an AI model on their home computer but something that likely happens most times that you’re querying an AI online.
That’s also true, though it’s important to remember that the “experts” aren’t experts in the classical sense. Say you have a word made up of 3 tokens, it’s possible that each token is routed to a different expert. It’s just a model architecture.
Using them is also very energy intensive (though much less so than training).
Playing a AAA game amount of energy vs running an entire data center on full blast amount of energy, is the comparison I like to make.
Yes, and now not just cringe gamers are using that electricity. At least that was an experience wholely unique, this is people delegating thought, artistry, and processing. Meaning now it can be use for passive things in day to day life.
The increase then can be measured by any time that wasnt spent on gaming, now needing a large enough mole hill to want and circumvent. Gaming already was escapism of social cognizant responsibilities, I say this as a dude who spent every 80 hours a week on gaming, and have 11k hours in league.
Circumventing these things outside of gaming will essentially lead to a dependency. I hardly trust adults to self govern, but kids I can see being swindled by the ‘ability’ granted. Rather than the dependency and lack of one’s innate thought and memory.
It just makes me scared, no I dont think it will ever fully replace a person’s mind, but it will grasp it. It can make a person doubtful of themselves and in doubt we are most persuadable. With recent politics nationwide trying to turn into fascist states fundamentally built on hate, I do not want kids to be raised persuaded without their will. While also removing part of their learning capabilities and reducing their capacity.
Cities will seem like labor mills to house the slaves, while being more aware of freedom than those truly free.
C’mon man Matrix was on this shit, if that’s too boring try adventure time.
(I don’t game anymore)
I think that to a degree we’re buying into the showmanship and claims of AI companies concerning the future, when the reality is that there are hard limits to the functionality of generative AI and LLMs. They want us to think that they’re building Rocco’s Basilisk because that’s some good terrifying viral marketing. But it isn’t true.
I’ve personally tried these tools at home. I’ve got LM Studio and ComfyUI on my PC. They’re novel and all, but they do have a hard limit to usefulness. You cannot rely on an information tool that returns the wrong information half the time. Not because it’s annoying but because people want and need to get stuff done, and ultimately AI will get in the way of getting stuff done.
It does not matter about the limit, if they can convince people to sell out. The kids are still fucked and delayed. Your dismissiveness devalues the harm a tool like this can do. Just how the internet spread rapidly facilatating crime and is only recently being wrangled. Social existence is centralized, intelligence can be too - then it can be sold at a subscription. With you the creator losing all ownership.
It’s just the head of the iceberg. Soon the rest will melt too.
I think the future will be somewhere between what we consider normal now and the austere dystopia you envision. This AI shit certainly isn’t making the world any better, that’s for sure.
Honestly that’s not what I envision, that’s just an extension of every fear in media and religious philosophy. From the buddhist one is all, that extends the rammifications of every action. To the Christian ideals of god creating ‘life’. Fallout 4 and Synths. Cyberpunk and Soul Killer. Full Metal Alchemist and the philosopher’s stone/homunculi.
The goal of those in power is to replace the people they need to be in power. This can progress to be much more. We are on the stepping stones of giants and you must assess the ripples. AI is being fed to the masses for a reason, it can facilitate 1984-esque control of information. We are already seeing thought crimes being implicated on people through their immigration processes. Along with thought crimes already being the prime directive behind piracy.
You do not steal, you are theoretically losing them money and that is seen as worth incarceration. Even if it was something you wouldn’t purchase or support. They spread the internet before the ramifications became apparent. AI is next if man does not heed.
Oh there’s no question, humanity will be dumber because of AI. I’ve already seen it, and it JUST started. Imagine it in 10 years with how good it is. AI babies are the new ipad babies. There will be zero thinking for yourself, zero problem solving ability. And those of us who shun it will be called the idiots. Mark my words.
While the order of magnitude is correct, running the bigger models is closer to playing a AAA game on 8 computers at the same time.
Yeah I did forget to consider that a lot of the web hosted models have a whole array of “experts” - Sub-LLMs that help fill in specialized information that a more generalized LLM wouldn’t have. Not a problem for someone running an AI model on their home computer but something that likely happens most times that you’re querying an AI online.
That’s also true, though it’s important to remember that the “experts” aren’t experts in the classical sense. Say you have a word made up of 3 tokens, it’s possible that each token is routed to a different expert. It’s just a model architecture.