The texts, which faculty members said appeared to have gone to nearly all Barnard staff members, appear to be part of an aggressive new tactic by the Trump administration to collect reports of alleged antisemitism at Barnard, a women’s college affiliated with Columbia University that has come under heavy criticism for pro-Palestinian demonstrations on its campus.

https://archive.ph/cWiAw

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    I don’t like a lot of what this administration does but if they uncover and stop one or more malicious people from harming others, I’ll take it. It doesn’t mean I’ll become a political supporter but I’m not going to refuse some good out of spite.

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      if they uncover and stop one or more malicious people from harming others, I’ll take it

      They want to punish pro-Palestinian demonstrators by falsely claiming they are antisemitic.

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        by falsely claiming they are antisemitic.

        A significant number of them are true antisemites. Not all ofcourse, probably not even the majority but there’s plenty of them.

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          Palestinians are also semites. Stop pushing this idiotic propoganda narrative.

          Criticism of the horrific actions of the government of Israel is not criticism of an entire people.

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            The term is no longer used as such. Antisemite means a person who hates Jews, and many of the “pro-Palestine” people are such - including a huge number of Palestinians and Muslims in general. It’s not a propaganda narrative - it’s a fact. The destruction of Israel and Jews is Hamas’s stated goal.

            The Hour will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims will kill them, until the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say: O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him—except the gharqad tree, for it is one of the trees of the Jews.

            Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Hadith 6985

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              You just did a not too subtle thing where you transitioned immediately from pro-palestine not being genocided to pro Hamas.

              You can’t just casually conflate those. Stop it

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                  I’m not going to walk you through how the English language works. You’re a big boy

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      But… It’s not good. One last time, loudly for the people in the back:

      Being pro-Palestine or anti-genocide is not “antisemitism”.

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        In my experience the people in the back have their fingers in their ears and are going “lalalalalala”.

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          Only if they’re being threatened because they’re Jewish. For example, an armed robber who pays no mind to victim’s ethnicity wouldn’t be antisemitic just because they mugged a Jewish person.

          And just because a person says they’ve been threatened doesn’t mean they have been. For example, some people feel threatened (or pretend to be) if their political views are challenged.

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          Is that happening? No…? Then, (like the Trump administration) you’re arguing in bad faith.

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      They’re attacking free speech - people protesting against an actual literal genocide, and pretending it’s to stop antisemitism (ignoring that the Palestinians are ALSO semites)

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        Antisemitism is defined by hatred of Jews, as coined by the German group Anti-Semites who wanted to have a fancier name than Jew-Haters.

        It doesn’t really matter for anything that Palestinians are akshually semites.

        It’s like arguing that racism is not a thing because technically human races do not exist outside pseudoscientific eugenics.

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            What does that even mean?

            My comment argues that claiming antisemitism includes discrimination against anyone who is a semite has zero historical basis. It would also now exclude many Jews who are not semites yet were targeted by the Anti-Semites.

            Of course genocide is bad. But anyone arguing Palestinians should be genocided because they are all “antisemites” will never be convinced by arguments. Therefore, there is no point in attempting to adjust the definition of antisemitism.

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        Protests are fine but were there not threats and low-grade acts of aggression that targeted Jewish people at some of these campuses?

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          Then have law enforcement investigate it. Oh that’s right, there is no investigation because it isn’t happening.

          It’s fucking disgusting that you support a president harassing and threatening individual citizens over imaginary crimes so he can punish dissenters.

          You’re not going to like it when we use these powers against traitors like you in 4 years. We’ll see how you feel when YOUR free speech is treated as a criminal act.

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              NYP is a right wing propoganda outlet. They lied about all kinds of shit to get Donny Dipshit elected. Find a better source. That’s a Murdoch (owner of fox) rag

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                AP is neutral enough for you?

                https://apnews.com/article/campus-protests-israel-palestine-columbia-f2984f21aa38a4f637982af7b98fed5e

                In its report, the task force cited incidents where Jewish students had been threatened or shoved, or subjected to blatantly antisemitic symbols like swastikas.

                But it also described a broader pattern of Jewish students feeling ostracized from classmates who had once been friends.

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                  This is all very vague, and given that I’ve seen video of people carrying Israeli flags and harassing the anti genocide protests, those same people then turning around and claiming antisemitism against themselves can account for some of those reports.

                  I’m sure it’s happened. But this doesn’t even draw a link to those protests. We know the right wing is very anti Jewish given how often they march with those swastikas mentioned in the article.

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                    I’m sure it’s happened.

                    And all I am saying is, if we can make it stop, I’ll call that a win, no matter who is the one who stops it.

                    Stopping these types of evils doesn’t mean we approve evil elsewhere. I am not sure why you don’t understand this.

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                  Oh, so that means it’s okay to lie and claim that anybody protesting has the same motivation?