The U.S. expects Ukraine’s response Wednesday to a peace framework that includes U.S. recognition of Crimea as part of Russia and unofficial recognition of Russian control of nearly all areas occupied since the 2022 invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the proposal tell Axios.
Why it matters: The one-page document the U.S. presented Ukrainian officials in Paris last week describes this as Trump’s “final offer.” The White House insists it’s ready to walk away if the parties don’t make a deal soon.
I hope to someday justice prevails and Trump is tried for treason and has similar final offer of electric chair or firing squad. I also hope that the woman he raped when she was a 13 year old child gets to carry out the order
Slow strangulation at the end of a rope Iranian style would seem most just in Krasnov’s case.
If he gets tried as a war criminal he would be hanged.
From the article:
“De jure” U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.
That would contravene the Budapest memorandum, in which other signatories (including the US) promise to “Respect the signatory’s independence and sovereignty in the existing borders”. Most likely, the president of Ukraine cannot simply sign this, but is required by constitution to hold a referendum. Which is not possible in war time. So to my understnading, this point sabotages the rest entirely. Ukraine cannot sign and ratify this, and consequently won’t.
“De-facto recognition” of the Russia’s occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.
That would be merely untenable for Ukraine.
The lifting of sanctions imposed since 2014. / Enhanced economic cooperation with the U.S., particularly in the energy and industrial sectors.
That would be active cooperation with the agressor.
I’m not sure if my crystal ball is cheap glass or a real palantir, but I see this proposal in the paper bin. I see the US overstepping promises made in better times. As a consequence, I also see certain European countries give zero damns about which weapons systems contain US components, and give those systems to Ukraine while they re-arm themselves with locally made items.
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because trump is just a puppet of the kremlin
Wow. That Trump fellow sure can negotiate (for his daddy Vlad).
Ain’t happening. Not supporting Russia or Israel. Cannot take peoples land because u just want to. Fk them.
Cannot take peoples land because u just want to.
Wait till he finds out that’s how every sovereign nation came to be…
Under the spineless fickle Trump in 2018…
"Russia, through its 2014 invasion of Ukraine and its attempted annexation of Crimea, sought to undermine a bedrock international principle shared by democratic states: that no country can change the borders of another by force. The states of the world, including Russia, agreed to this principle in the United Nations Charter, pledging to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state. This fundamental principle — which was reaffirmed in the Helsinki Final Act — constitutes one of the foundations upon which our shared security and safety rests.
As we did in the Welles Declaration in 1940, the United States reaffirms as policy its refusal to recognize the Kremlin’s claims of sovereignty over territory seized by force in contravention of international law. In concert with allies, partners, and the international community, the United States rejects Russia’s attempted annexation of Crimea and pledges to maintain this policy until Ukraine’s territorial integrity is restored.
The United States calls on Russia to respect the principles to which it has long claimed to adhere and to end its occupation of Crimea. As democratic states seek to build a free, just, and prosperous world, we must uphold our commitment to the international principle of sovereign equality and respect the territorial integrity of other states. Through its actions, Russia has acted in a manner unworthy of a great nation and has chosen to isolate itself from the international community.
Michael R. Pompeo, Secretary of State
Washington, DC
July 25, 2018 "
How artful.
Fuck off Krasnov.
Trumps fuckhead logic is nothing but selfish trash
Give them back Crimea, fuck back off to Russia and maybe we can talk about peace
Why the fuck is the US making offers to Ukraine for peace? Shouldn’t Russia be doing that?
Because the US has the most powerful military on the planet and Ukraine is dependent on it so they can continue fighting the war.
We’re not seeing any news coming out of Ukraine because they’re losing badly right now. It’s how propaganda works. Overplay your sides’ accomplishments while ignoring their failures. If we’re hearing radio silence from the news outlets that were eager to promote things like Ukraine’s “counteroffensive,” it’s because Ukraine is losing and the propaganda mills aren’t allowed to report on it.
Da comrade.
Trump surrendered the Second Cold War to Russia.
Russia has installed a puppet regime here.
He is maintaining a stupid stageplay for his stupid base whom he still needs to retain power, as they are basically an army he could mobilize if he has to.
Sure he would probably be happy and make sacks of cash if he got Ukraine to surrender, but nobody expects that to happen. Outside of said idiots who believe Trump to be Stupid-Jesus risen again. Most of them are too dim to understand what’s happening and delight in their own cognitive dissonance. They read a statement like this and go “YEAH BROTHA TELL THEM FREELOADERS TO STOP STEALING AMERICAN CASH” then tell all their friends and family and nonconsenting coworkers how Trump “resolved the ukraine war” like he promised.
If anyone thinks any part of that is hyperbolic, you’re not getting out enough. Ya’ll gotta understand that the quarter of America who worships this orange turd are cheering and partying all day, every day. They’re not worried, they’re not regretting shit. All of that is distraction and pandering. They believe themselves to be winning, and their leader controls the world’s most wealthy and powerful nation.
HA. NOPE. Back to the 2013 borders. Period. Plus it’s not up to the US. It’s up to the country being invaded.
Due to our administration we are 100% going to abandon them, so this is worse than nothing. It’s the exact same result if Russia wins the war, plus all the lives and money and devastation spent.
Not quite, if they have a security guarantee, then they have political independence from Moscow
They already have one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
Offering another empty promise is unlikely to cause them to make concessions again
That’s assuming the country providing the “security guarantee” will actually do what they say they will when worse comes to worst. These days, that’s a BIG assumption.
I say back to pangea
Ukraine could offer to china, rare earth mining rights.
Ukraine could offer China? wtf does that even mean?
For China to pressure russia
