Out of curiosity, do you have a source for the belief that most Jews hate Israel? Not disputing it necessarily, just curious where you get that impression from.
A quick search pulled up this study about American Jews that seems to show that even the most sympathetic age demographics display 50% or more approval for how Israel has handled the conflict. If you’ve got different numbers about Jews worldwide, I’d be interested to see them:
Note that I said ‘most cool Jews’. I’ve met a number of outspoken expats that have flavored my perception, and there’s a broad swath that oppose the country’s actions but you’re right, there’s a metric fuckton of uncool Jews out there.
Sorry, my brain skipped over the word cool and read “most Jews”. No doubt that there are Jews who acknowledge what is actually happening, it is just disconcerting to see how far some people will bend over backwards to make excuses for their own team.
I have this argument with my family all the time when they try to act like there is something to redeem here in America—it is a strength to admit when the rot has spread and the limb can’t be saved in its current form.
Israelis and Jews in general have been victims of a massive pro-genocide propaganda campaign from the Israeli government for many, many years now. Not everyone buys into the propaganda, though.
Kind of similar dehumanizing rhetoric as we’re seeing in America right now when it comes to immigrants and trans people or the cold war rhetoric of the past when it came to Russians.
There are no winners in war (except for banana companies and Big Oil).
Honestly it’s a real fucking bummer. As someone who grew up in an era where a common wish for lottery winners and trophy winners was “peace in the Middle East” in regards to Israel and all of its neighbors, the recent escalation in Gaza has given a lot of us an excuse to learn a lot more about the actual history and unforgivable atrocities that have occurred since the early fifties.
Out of curiosity, do you have a source for the belief that most Jews hate Israel? Not disputing it necessarily, just curious where you get that impression from.
A quick search pulled up this study about American Jews that seems to show that even the most sympathetic age demographics display 50% or more approval for how Israel has handled the conflict. If you’ve got different numbers about Jews worldwide, I’d be interested to see them:
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/02/how-us-jews-are-experiencing-the-israel-hamas-war/
There are no cool Jews that like Israel. Because that would make you un-cool.
This cool Jew hates Israel. Hope that helps 😉
Note that I said ‘most cool Jews’. I’ve met a number of outspoken expats that have flavored my perception, and there’s a broad swath that oppose the country’s actions but you’re right, there’s a metric fuckton of uncool Jews out there.
Sorry, my brain skipped over the word cool and read “most Jews”. No doubt that there are Jews who acknowledge what is actually happening, it is just disconcerting to see how far some people will bend over backwards to make excuses for their own team.
I have this argument with my family all the time when they try to act like there is something to redeem here in America—it is a strength to admit when the rot has spread and the limb can’t be saved in its current form.
Israelis and Jews in general have been victims of a massive pro-genocide propaganda campaign from the Israeli government for many, many years now. Not everyone buys into the propaganda, though.
Kind of similar dehumanizing rhetoric as we’re seeing in America right now when it comes to immigrants and trans people or the cold war rhetoric of the past when it came to Russians.
There are no winners in war (except for banana companies and Big Oil).
Honestly it’s a real fucking bummer. As someone who grew up in an era where a common wish for lottery winners and trophy winners was “peace in the Middle East” in regards to Israel and all of its neighbors, the recent escalation in Gaza has given a lot of us an excuse to learn a lot more about the actual history and unforgivable atrocities that have occurred since the early fifties.
Slightly more than 50% of all people are at least somewhat uncool, in my estimation, and that of course includes Jews, so thanks for confirming that!