• kipo@lemm.ee
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        1 hour ago

        Well unlike religion, science supports this truth. Decades of science and listening to trans people and their lived experiences.

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        20 hours ago

        Oh, are we banning Christians from bathrooms on the basis that you disagree with them? Maybe Muslims make you uncomfortable and you don’t want them near women?

        Sincerely, what is your argument here, “I don’t believe you, so what you said is invalid it’s a religion.”? Trans women are women. I don’t understand how that is a debate or why you think it’s equivalent to some religion, it’s an assertion of identity.

            • peperonissynchr@lemmy.world
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              19 hours ago

              Can you be more civil?

              Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Lots of people think their beliefs are true even if they might not be. It’s bigoted of you to think your beliefs are absolute fact while discrediting the beliefs of others.

              Religious people use the same tactics to persecute those they disagree with.

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                18 hours ago

                Some people equate facts with belief. I can’t help it if you have no ability to discern the difference. If you can, then I can’t help that your beliefs make you hateful and willing to dismiss things you don’t like as “beliefs”.

                Also…

                It’s bigoted of you to think your beliefs are absolute fact while discrediting the beliefs of others.

                Pot, meet kettle? Are you not doing this by your own logic?

                Edit: Can’t see your transphobic shit anymore, thank fuck. Trans women are women. Trans does not mean not. You wouldn’t say “Cis women aren’t women” just because “Cis” comes before “women”.

                  • Count042@lemmy.ml
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                    Healthy, normal, sane, and regular are words people who want to control other people without feeling like they are trying to control other people tend to use.

                    They should always send up red flags that any statement using them may be an ingenuous attempt to control others.

                    Your comment is a bright shining example of someone doing this.

                    Go fuck off and learn to control yourself first.

                • peperonissynchr@lemmy.world
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                  19 hours ago

                  Yes, but if we can’t agree on what the facts are then we’re back to our beliefs.

                  Right now, even, you’re trying to espouse something that is most certainly not fact as fact which diminishes the meaning of the word entirely.

                  It also diminishes the effectiveness of arguing truth when you’re willing to lie about what’s a fact.

                  Pot, meet kettle? Are you not doing this by your own logic?

                  No, I always said you were entitled to your beliefs. If you think they are true, that’s fine. I’m not discrediting you nor do I think my beliefs are absolute fact.

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                    17 hours ago

                    I’m not discrediting you nor do I think my beliefs are absolute fact.

                    Nope, you’re just saying that your beliefs are sufficient grounds for being a dick to people you hate.

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                19 hours ago

                I’m absolutely not going to tolerate intolerance. If you want to make a shitty bigoted argument, you should be prepared to be called a bigot, because that’s exactly what you are.

                Your beliefs are not valid, and we don’t have to protect you from criticism. The existence of trans people is not a matter of fucking faith.

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                  19 hours ago

                  I can tell you’re too emotional to engage in this discussion civilly, so I’m going to have to ignore you.

                  You’re allowed to be upset, but I don’t have to take your constant insults and abuse. Goodbye.

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                    11 hours ago

                    Bigots are all such entitled babies.

                    You broke the social contract by being a bigot. You refuse to treat trans people with respect and goodwill, yet expect it from others.

                    I hope lemmy’s mods never start acting like reddit mods. I hope they never start protecting bigots. (EDIT: sadly, that ship just sailed.) Bigots have too many platforms where they are welcome already.

                    Where bigots are welcome, no one else is.