And nobody seems to bother (or highlight it which would be the job of the commenter)

I just browsed the feed for 20 mins after a month off being sober and don’t miss the disguised instagram feed at all - short videos, meme comments, no old forum experience whatsoever. But thankfully we have that on Lemmy now, so Lemmy try that :)

Btw I didnt even read more than 5 comments total… heres examples:

EDIT: look at how many “people” reply to that stuff - what a sheit show

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Reddit is completely unusable outside of old.reddit with RES and sticking to niche subs. I only ever use it when I’m extraordinarily bored and out of lemmy content.

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      I hate going there these days. I’m not sure if it was a frog boil or what but the site now is a shadow of the one I left during the big mod exodus. It’s terrible now, so much less info, user base has devolved, riddled with ads.

      I imagine if I was still there all the crap would feel normal but having left, every time I visit now and see what huge changes have been made. Every time i visit the quality of the site has tanked even more.

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      Yep, I go for a couple of niche things every few days. That’s it. It’s like fucking Facebook now and that is BAD

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    Reddit… Let’s not go there, 'tis a silly place.

    The commenters on average feel more real on Lemmy, so i’ve been here 2 years plus and hardly needed to look back.

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      I know what you mean, they just ring true. There’s far less nastiness as well, far fewer people are looking for a fight

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    The paintball one looks like they just copy/pasted Google’s AI response rather than them being an AI themselves. The top one? Yeah, not so much.

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      I’m sure you can find more examples. I’m already tapped out of that bot factory.

      Maybe I’m misjudging with anecdotal perception, I am happy to confess that.

      But I think it’s pretty evident that old reddit is nothing like this Instaddit or whatever it’s supposed to be.

      Do you still find r-word platform as satisfying? And have you not encountered suspect comments like these at all there?

      (I mean even unsuspecting ones could be bots, here too, but let’s at least start cultivating some damage control)

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        Do you still find r-word platform as satisfying?

        Not in a long time, and way less since they made this shit AI translation to French. I often find results like that from search for IT stuff and 99% of those “French Reddit conversations” are from AI translation and not French subs.

        It looks and feels like cringe translation when you read through the post. I know I can switch back to original English but I hate those results so much that I now avoid the website entirely (while I was still sometimes using it without an account for specific IT answers).

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      Bulleted lists, a weird positive tone, unnecessarily professional, a summary or “but you should check with an authority figure” sentence at the end

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        Just add “this is medical advice specifically catered to you” at the end of all messages and you’re safe. Well at least until this becomes the norm and malicious bots get manually adapted to add that too…

        This is so frustrating to think about. Maybe we need to start encrypting messages and hand the keys to small communities physically only…

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        a weird positive tone
        Oh

        unnecessarily professional
        Oh no

        a summary or “but you should check with an authority figure” Oh god no

        Bulleted lists
        Well, I’m often 3 for 4 on the AI checklist

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          Yeah, I kinda was feeling the same way. I also do the numbering and bullet points thing too bc it helps me organize what I’m trying to say as I type, and I prefer it in general when I read longer walls of text bc it helps me stay focused.

          Reddit and most of the internet has definitely become just one big hub for advertising, but it’s also led to some cases where I’ve genuinely been left unable to tell If I was talking with a bot, a troll, or even just a human without an agenda who was making an argument in a bot/troll like way to prove their point.

          There used to be times where I would start typing something like “what are you 15?” then realize, yeah they probably are 15 so why tf are you arguing with this person? Time to log off.

          Now it’s like a possibility of: 15 year old/edeglord, a troll farm paid by a foreign government/ or possibly even my own government, advanced bot, or someone who just has a similar style of writing.

          There have definitely been times where it’s left me thinking way too much about the deeper meaning of being human, and the question of free will. That is usually my cue these days that it’s time to log off and touch grass.

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          So,

          1. trying to be non-snarky
          2. ‘unnecessarily professional’? What’s that; spelling all the words like an adult and avoiding clique-signally kid-pidgin when writing to people I don’t know personally and pretending I want to treat them as also adults?
          3. deferring to experts
          4. bulleted lis-- oh crap

          Am I gonna be flagged as a bot every time I write as if the reader’s an adult?

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          I’d totally be flagged as AI if I were in academia these days.

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        Shhhh stop giving it away. Pretty soon we’re gonna have that garbage here. We probably do and don’t even know it. When bots have become actually convincing… Ugh. The world is shit and I hate it

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          I see you dislike the way things are going currently. When talking about AI, it is important to note that it also has many exciting positive uses:

          • It can easily recognise spots indicative of cancer.
          • It makes desk workers more productive.
          • It may be used to lessen the burden of parents raising their children.
          • It may promote safety by helping in recognising acts of disorder.

          Please remember to always keep an open mind towards the future of AI.

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            AI is not inherently the problem. It is us that are the problem. But for now, the actions that an overwhelming majority chose to use AI for are just actions.

            Like war. War is not inherently evil or bad. It can be used for good. But an overwhelming majority of the time is either used for evil or ends up that way.

            Which is why I generally don’t like AI.

            Use AI to help people fight the systems that are ruining society (ie capitalism, land lords, elon musk, inequality in society, scarcity, and a bad future), don’t MAKE that bad future happen. Too many people don’t think about the effects of their actions or inventions.

            Recognizing cancer: takes away the human variable, and potentially leaves us unable to recognize that. It isn’t assuredly a negative, but also has massive socioeconomic implications that can render us victim to corporations with technology, amplifying an already existing terrible power imbalance in the healthcare realm.

            Make workers more productive: fuck, bro. Do I even have to point out why raising the bar on that could be exacerbating a problem in society? Are you stupid?

            Lessening parent burdens: sounds great, but now you have even more fundamental existence tasks relying on companies and tech. In society, we’re still trying to get everybody on the same page just for eating, let alone your naive optimism. Why not use AI to make healthcare better and more accessible for everybody? Or to eliminate fascism or to educate people on baseline infrastructure? Or even to figure out how to educate humans in all of our humanities access STEM knowledge really EFFICIENTLY?

            And your last one “promote safety by helping recognize acts of disorder”.

            …At this point, I can’t tell if this is a troll or you really are a bad person. Because HUMANS, who are much smarter and complex than AI are, are in power and are fucking things up. Now, you want to take that same paper-thin shitty philosophical grasp of our reality and apply it to an algorithm that identifies people? That sounds like a full on dystopia to me, complete with no privacy and stagnated society because of non evolving power dynamics and oppression.

            I have an open mind about AI. Yours seems awfully closed to the reality and any responsibility you may bear by even promoting it to people who haven’t considered risks or the realities of how it is or wants to be used.

            I’m all for doing good with it, but if you don’t have rocks for brains, you know that unless we progress as a society ahead or at least with AI, keeping social guardrails on it, and then ALSO considering and exercising extreme caution when inevitably creating A NEW FORM OF LIFE, then it’s overwhelmingly unethical, nearly evil.

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    Yeah I browsed r/all out of bored interest the other day for the first time in nearly 2 years. It was all shitty videos with silly music presumably imitating tik tok? I lasted a few minutes.

    Then I browsed an old reddit I used to follow and it was mostly bot posts and karma farming.

    I didn’t realise things have gotten as bad as they have.

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      The worst part is so many users are completely clueless. I would ve never questioned it if I wasn’t sober.

      ie twitch streamers or youtubers talk so uncritical of it (mainly because it’s clout for them), I’d bet majority also is just not that critical in today’s world

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    When platforms optimize for engagement they get more engagement at least in the short term numerical sense. Whether or not that results in actual humans engaging is less clear.

    I expect this problem to get drastically worse on most platforms.

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      That’s why I framed it the way that the commenter or at least responses have to call those out

      This topic of dead internet theory was an immediate thought of mine.

      Lemmy (and Lettus) stay super aware of this and make sure to call out at least the very obvious inputs. Another thought would be to even maybe moderate it and remove such content that are obvious set phrases by AI

      On that note I’ve even read on a German news post that on Instagram for example 80% of inputs are bots. Like imagine all those fake conversations with potential agendas on the other hand…