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    Yeah my dude, just because I carry or have firearms doesn’t mean I’m obligated to protect you or your rights.

    Anyone with common sense would have spotted that… but the sole reason your constitution allows such carefree access to guns was supposed to be so you can defend YOUR OWN COUNTRY against fascism…

    The point being in that it is now proven there is no value in allowing people to freely carry guns; it’s a net detriment to society

    YOU have an obligation to provide for your safety and to advocate for your rights.

    As a Canadian I do, we just do it in a civic way as Fascism has not hit us yet…

    If there was a public shooting, I have no legal obligation to protect anyone. My goal would be to find a place of safety for me and my family and use my gun to eliminate or at least dissuade the attacker from going after me and mine. You and yours are on your own.

    Nobody is asking you… but you keep missing the part where a public shooting is a reality for you since so many people can have guns with almost no preparation, safety or responsibility. Feel free to keep living in your Rambo hero fantasy

    We are also not nearly at the point of armed rebellion or insurrection here in the US

    Let me guess, you think that because they have not come for you yet?.. “fuck you, got mine” is a lousy way to build a society

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      Anyone with common sense would have spotted that… but the sole reason your constitution allows such carefree access to guns was supposed to be so you can defend YOUR OWN COUNTRY against fascism… The point being in that it is now proven there is no value in allowing people to freely carry guns; it’s a net detriment to society

      There are many reasons the right to gun ownership is enshrined in the constitution. Resisting or eliminating tyranny is the most extreme example. But anyone not trying to make hyperbolic anti-2A statements would know this. There is great value in carrying guns. Statistically speaking conceal and carry card holders are the most law abiding segment of society.

      As a Canadian I do, we just do it in a civic way as Fascism has not hit us yet…

      Lol, your Conservative Party candidate Pierre Poilievre was well on his way to winning handily until Trump derailed him with his 51st state and tariff antics. I also seem to remember far right truckers shutting down your highways a few years ago. As much as Canadians love to think they are different from the US, you’re not. You just might get lucky that Trump scared your moderate voters away from facism.

      Nobody is asking you… but you keep missing the part where a public shooting is a reality for you since so many people can have guns with almost no preparation, safety or responsibility. Feel free to keep living in your Rambo hero fantasy

      Your moral compass seems to lack direction. You were just advocating for armed insurrection in the US on your last post. Now you advocate for non violence? BTW Rambo fantasy? How is stating that you would finding a safe place and defending your life with your firearm instead of run and gunning it with an active shooter a Rambo fantasy? You seem to have such a rabid anti gun stance that it clouds your judgement.

      Let me guess, you think that because they have not come for you yet?.. “fuck you, got mine” is a lousy way to build a society.

      See my statement above about advocating for violence and then condemning. This is truly Olympic level mental gymnastics to justify your hypocrisy.

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        There are many reasons the right to gun ownership is enshrined in the constitution

        There is literally only one. It has been twisted into a pretzel of ignorance and illogical fallacies but there is only one. If you think there are more than 1, I’d be happy to read the source

        Lol, your Conservative Party candidate Pierre Poilievre was well on his way to winning handily until Trump derailed him

        Correct, thanks for the live example. Unlike Americans, it seems we noticed and learned… you lived through the first tRump term and decided you wanted more punishment

        Your moral compass seems to lack direction. You were just advocating for armed insurrection in the US on your last post. Now you advocate for non violence?

        No, your reading comprehension lacks competence. The USA is under a fascist regime and as such, an armed resistance should be forming. Canada is not under the same threat (except from the USA) and more importantly, we do not have the “right to bear arms” for a well regulated militia.

        See my statement above about advocating for violence and then condemning.

        A complete non-sequitur… My comment on you having the “fuck you, got mine” mentality is based entirely on your claim you are not willing to move a finger for anyone other than yourself AND that you do not think tRump is enough of a dictator to do anything about it. I am simply pointing out that you think the tRump has not “crossed the line” is that you have not been personally affected by his fascist government. It has literally zero to do with my suggestion an armed resistance should form nor am I even condemning it at all LOL

        The only violence I am condemning in my comment is the fact that the idiots armed in the USA only brought school shootings… and yes, I condemn school shootings, don’t you? let me guess, it has not affected you directly so probably you’d say “we are not there yet”

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          There is literally only one. It has been twisted into a pretzel of ignorance and illogical fallacies but there is only one. If you think there are more than 1, I’d be happy to read the source

          Feel free to read it, seems like you could use an education.

          https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-2/

          Correct, thanks for the live example. Unlike Americans, it seems we noticed and learned… you lived through the first tRump term and decided you wanted more punishment

          Lol, please Canadians learned nothing until Trump started talking trash about Canada. Before then Canadians saw Trump v1 and decided they wanted their own shit tier version with French subtitles. BTW I voted for the lady with the economics degree. I didn’t vote for this shit.

          No, your reading comprehension lacks competence. The USA is under a fascist regime and as such, an armed resistance should be forming. Canada is not under the same threat (except from the USA) and more importantly, we do not have the “right to bear arms” for a well regulated militia.

          I can read just fine. Once again you seem to be advocating for armed violence. BTW YOU are the one who decided to comment about our American 2A rights and now you want to crawl away and hide behind your lack of rights. Pathetic.

          A complete non-sequitur… My comment on you having the “fuck you, got mine” mentality is based entirely on your claim you are not willing to move a finger for anyone other than yourself AND that you do not think tRump is enough of a dictator to do anything about it. I am simply pointing out that you think the tRump has not “crossed the line” is that you have not been personally affected by his fascist government. It has literally zero to do with my suggestion an armed resistance should form nor am I even condemning it at all LOL The only violence I am condemning in my comment is the fact that the idiots armed in the USA only brought school shootings… and yes, I condemn school shootings, don’t you? let me guess, it has not affected you directly so probably you’d say “we are not there yet”

          Wow that was amazing, contradicting yourself in back to back sentences. You start out by stating I’m a selfish jerk for not actively shooting people who are shooting at me. Then you advocate for me to shoot people who are not shooting at me. Then you top it off with a tangent about school shootings where you then condemn shooting people.

          Pick a lane and stay in it. You sound like a 🤡.

          To be clear, the only stance I have taken is for self defense and that I have no obligation to put myself in danger defending you. I also advocate that we are no where near the need for armed violence against others.

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            Feel free to read it, seems like you could use an education.

            https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-2/

            This is exactly the ONE justification I kept referring to. Thanks for proving my point

            I can read just fine. Once again you seem to be advocating for armed violence…

            If you can’t tell the difference between school shootings and fighting Fascism, I can’t help you. You are either trolling, morally bankrupt or just dim.

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      That’s not the real reason for the amendment. This is one of the few things where the real reason is right there in the text itself.

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

      It was so they could easily assemble a defense force without the need of a standing army just like they did at the start of the revolution. Not so the peasant masses could more easily overthrow them.

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        Well yes but the current interpretation was that peasant masses could defend themselves from tyrannical governments… it has always been a pretzel of logic but that is what they pushed and why the USA is such a violent mess now