• easily3667@lemmus.org
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    2 days ago

    Why is nazis=bad the wrong mindset? Its been good enough for most people for 100 years.

    • Tuukka R@sopuli.xyz
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      10 hours ago

      The problem is, the person saying “these guys are nazis” could be simply lying.

      A good example is Putin funding nazis everywhere in ex-USSR since around 2005, then managing to get Europeans to think the Ukrainian freedom movement was somehow a nazi movement even though the prevalence of right-wing extremism was growing until 2014 just like in the Russia and started decreasing in 2014, while it kept rising in the Russia and Russia-controlled areas such as Crimea.

      If the Russia was to gain control over Ukraine, the prevalence of right wing extremist attacks would start growing again like it did until 2014. And yet, a lot of Europeans, especially in Germany, are opposing Ukraine because of the "these guys are nazis, nazis=bad mindset. Nazis are bad. It’s just important to understand that someone accusing someone of being a nazi doesn’t mean that the someone actually is a nazi.

      The mindset has caused large parts of Ukraine to fall under circumstances that cause there to be more fascism. Anti-fascism has ended up promoting fascism in this case.

      I have not read about what Proton’s owners have said and will delve into that now. But my experience, having lived in Ukraine in 2015 and 2016 and in Germany between 2008 and 2010 (and still having good friends there), is that many are eager to jump on a bandwagon of lynching an accused nazi, even if the accuser himself is a nazi and the accused is not.

      It is ugly seeing precisely those who would be needed for fighting fascism work as errand boys for fascists.