This screams that people with different opinions aren’t people with valid opinions and lead to further dialectic conversation, and I reject that premise.
Conservatives should be welcome. Everyone should be welcome.
Well… that’s not quite what I said. I said civil rights. Not equal treatment under the law. If the government passed a law banning Jewish people or that I can own a black man or that trans people can use their preferred bathroom, that law could be equally applied to everyone, but not effect everyone equally.
I don’t think they were saying they’re Nazis; unfortunately, many people can’t recognize the harm a group does if that harm is slow or “off-screen” (like the poverty or civil restrictions most conservative policies inevitably result in).
I think they were just using a conservative group such as the Nazis since it’d be much more obvious to the average person as to why we need to draw a line, with some groups, and cleanly indicate why OP’s blanket statement that “everyone should be welcome” can’t possibly be true.
There are those who view this offer to share their thoughts and existence as an opportunity to permanently terminate the same of others.
Could ask you the same. You seem to imply most of all people that voted for Trump, or that agree with republicans on an issue they deem important. Hate to brake it to you, but there aren’t that many genuine nazis.
Nazis in Ukraine are still Nazis. Fortunately, there weren’t very many Nazis in Ukraine, and Russia just used that as a scapegoat, and only a fool would believe otherwise 😊
This screams that people with different opinions aren’t people with valid opinions and lead to further dialectic conversation, and I reject that premise.
Conservatives should be welcome. Everyone should be welcome.
I haven’t seen a person identify as a conservative on Lemmy without also a shitheel about civil rights.
Ok… well now you have. Everyone should be treated equally under the law. No one should be discriminated against.
Well… that’s not quite what I said. I said civil rights. Not equal treatment under the law. If the government passed a law banning Jewish people or that I can own a black man or that trans people can use their preferred bathroom, that law could be equally applied to everyone, but not effect everyone equally.
I disagree, Nazi’s have zero place anywhere in society outside of a history book.
They’re not Nazis. Calling them Nazis just makes it easier to do this stuff
I don’t think they were saying they’re Nazis; unfortunately, many people can’t recognize the harm a group does if that harm is slow or “off-screen” (like the poverty or civil restrictions most conservative policies inevitably result in).
I think they were just using a conservative group such as the Nazis since it’d be much more obvious to the average person as to why we need to draw a line, with some groups, and cleanly indicate why OP’s blanket statement that “everyone should be welcome” can’t possibly be true.
There are those who view this offer to share their thoughts and existence as an opportunity to permanently terminate the same of others.
Are “they” in the room with us right now?
I never even said who was a Nazi, just that they don’t have a place in society.
way to miss the point…
They’re openly fascists. I don’t know why you’re trying to split hairs. They’re not hiding it.
But they aren’t nazis. Just like you probably aren’t a naxalite, even though you might have a similar opinion on specific subjects.
Argue the point of a subject and stop swerving off to name calling.
who are “they”?
Could ask you the same. You seem to imply most of all people that voted for Trump, or that agree with republicans on an issue they deem important. Hate to brake it to you, but there aren’t that many genuine nazis.
that’s not under question here. I said Nazi’s don’t have a place in society.
not who.
not what.
just Nazis.
why are you defending Nazis so much?
You imply that ordinary people are nazis.
improve your reading and comprehension because I am certain I did not.
Agree. Also Fascists and Theocrats.
What if they’re Nazis in Ukraine? Weren’t you agreeing with anti-tankie sentiment in other comments?
Nazis in Ukraine are still Nazis. Fortunately, there weren’t very many Nazis in Ukraine, and Russia just used that as a scapegoat, and only a fool would believe otherwise 😊
There’s enough that they name streets after Nazis, cover their uniforms in Nazi symbols, and appoint self-declared Nazis to positions of power.