The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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    10 months ago

    Hamas surrenders, releases hostages and it’s done. But Hamas is the one pushing this war and they’re using the suffering of their own people to push propaganda - and people like yourself support their efforts.

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        10 months ago

        They have literally no chance to win while causing great suffering on everyone around them.

        I don’t know how a sane person could advocate for HAMAS to continue their terrorist actions.

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            10 months ago

            Nobody is supporting Hamas. They’re saying that there’s no justification for the genocide that Israel is engaging in.

            It doesn’t matter what either side has done when the response is to murder children. It’s all unjustifiable.

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          10 months ago

          Put yourself in Hamas miltant shoe. Mostly now had lost family members, living since born in a prison, you cannot go to sea, or cross to Egypt or even other part of the country.

          What do you think Winning means for them ?

        • Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works
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          10 months ago

          It is certainly better to kill Israeli soldiers than it is to not kill them. Peace has been tried for over 30 years, but Israel has refused. It’s about time Palestine started fighting back. Genociders do not listen to anything short of warfare and terrorism.

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            10 months ago

            Israel has refused? Israel is the one side that negotiated and offered multiple solutions to the conflict lmao

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                10 months ago

                Dude what are you on about? Israel offered land.

                If you think what Hamas is doing now is the better course you’re just absolutely deluded

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        10 months ago

        As opposed to the heavy resistance Hamas is currently putting up?

        If Israel wanted a genocide they could easily accomplish it. They clearly do not. This entire line of argumentation is beyond stupid.

        • Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works
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          10 months ago

          Are you aware that Israel doesn’t need to literally kill every palestinian in order to succeed at genocide? Do you think the Holocaust wasn’t a genocide?

          I don’t give a fuck about Hamas, Palestine should fight back against the genocidal state by any means necessary. Nothing Hamas has ever even been claimed to have done is worse than genocide, so criticizing them at all is a logical fallacy. If palestine thinks incorporating terrorism into their war effort is necessary, I’m not arrogant enough to claim I know better. Every repercussion of this war on both sides is the fault of Israel, just like was true of Nazi Germany.

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              10 months ago

              So if Israel kills 2 million Palestinians, but elsewhere 3 million are born, that is still genocide. Also, source on their population going up? You mean like world wide or something? Certainly not in Gaza. No, Hamas did not violate a ceasefire. Laying seige to an open air prison for 20 years does not count as ceasing fire. Hamas attacked Israel in retaliation to them getting worse and worse.

                • Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works
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                  10 months ago

                  They haven’t killed them yet,but they very much intend to. If you’re not trolling, I highly suggest you do some research on this subject before speaking confidently on it. Basically everything you’ve said is incorrect. I can’t educate you to that degree in a couple comments. But if you are well meaning, and you can ditch your pro America/ pro imperialism bias, you will come to learn a lot about how the world works overall by doing a deep dive on this subject. But let me be very clear: Israel is the bad guy, and America is bad for supporting them. This is a fact. Genocide is always evil, no matter who is doing it.