• 🐱TheCat@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    CHOOSE:

    freedom of thought, but you have to learn to work with people you disagree with slightly or find annoying: left

    uniformity of thought, but you are surrounded by bleating sheep and must bleat along: right

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      8 months ago

      It cracks me up how antivaxxers on the right try using the slogan “Lions not sheep”. It reminds me of how Fox News used to call themselves “Fair and Balanced”.

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      8 months ago

      It’s always funny when the right start having a lot of infighting because it turns out that “what everyone thinks” turns out to be a personal choice.

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      A lot of younger (louder) leftists are not liberal so they enforce uniform thought in their communities and mock liberals.

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        Leftism is intersectional. So having communities that agree with one another but disagree with others is often the state of things. One community can get more accomplished if they agree internally. Liberals are not leftists.

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          Majority of people who vote left wing are liberals and most leftwing policy in the west is based in liberal values. It seems to be only a small set of people on the left that are not liberal.

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        Young people of all generations do not have full brains developed yet, they are basic and self righteous until 27ish

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        This is confusing. Liberalism isn’t leftwing, it’s right-of-center at best. Most often it’s right-wing economic policies with socially left-wing ineffectual lip service. Especially with how far right the Democrats have trended since the 80s and their adoption of a corporate focused form of third-wayism. There are only a handful of representatives who could even be considered slightly left-of-center progressives.

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      8 months ago

      CHOOSE:

      grouping everyone on a binary political scale with no nuances

      not thinking that you’re either left OR right, but realise that you can have different opinions and preferences in different areas and those can’t always be forced into a left/right box, and that you can agredisagree with anyone, regardless if you vote for the same party or not

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        8 months ago

        Really? The right around here is burning books, claiming their religious beliefs should be enshrined in laws forced on others, and openly supporting a wannabe dictator while calling anyone in their party who doesn’t agree a ‘Rino’ (Republica in name only). To say nothing of the connection to churches and their ‘flocks’

        That is a lot of trying to force viewpoints on others and create a uniform viewpoint

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      Interesting. Why are people getting cancelled for opposing leftist views? Why are you automatically considered a nazi if you don’t agree with every facet of the left? I may be wrong here, but none of that sounds like freedom of thought. The right is full of dumb ideas, but at least they let them all be heard.

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        Why are people getting cancelled for opposing leftist views?

        They aren’t

        Why are you automatically considered a nazi if you don’t agree with every facet of the left?

        You aren’t

        I may be wrong here, but none of that sounds like freedom of thought.

        You are wrong here

        The right is full of dumb ideas, but at least they let them all be heard.

        Why is this even a positive lol

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        Why are people getting cancelled for opposing leftist views?

        From the people who tried to cancel D&D, Rock music, The Dixie Chicks, Drag shows, LGBTQ…

        Why are you automatically considered a nazi if you don’t agree with every facet of the left?

        From the people who started asking if the ultra-religious speaker of the house was “secretly a Democrat” because he simply acknowledged the difficulties his adopted black son has that his white son doesn’t.

        I may be wrong here, but none of that sounds like freedom of thought. The right is full of dumb ideas, but at least they let them all be heard.

        From the people who shouted down a reporter for simply asking the question “do you believe the 2020 election was stolen?”

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        Everything you said is bullshit and d r I p p I n g in so much propaganda filth I don’t think you are an actual real person! Literally Nobody talks like this.

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            The part where the left cancels everything but the poor pitiful free speech respecting conservatives are totally innocent. Lol. Right wingers are the all time world champions of cancel culture.

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              You really gonna gaslight about the left not canceling anything? Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben, Land o Lakes… You all couldn’t wait to get rid of minorities in advertising. How about people’s careers ended and lives ruined because of allegations of them saying something that goes against whatever is currently trendy, even if the comment was twenty years ago. JK Rowling was beloved by everybody and then said something someone didn’t like and now she’s hated by those very same people. Roseanne had a hit show with 18 million viewers to be kicked off for a comment. Even Dr. Suess couldn’t escape it. But according to you, none of that happened. Maybe I just have a wild imagination.

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        Dude, people on the left don’t agree with everything on the left. That’s the entire point of this post. Grow up and have some nuence in thought. Learn to analyze what you’re told and think critically, not just repeat things you hear other people say.

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          Exactly. I’m a leftist and I’ve been banned by leftists for disagreeing with them.

          You don’t have to be right wing to get called a nazi by a leftist

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        Disagreeing with a gay person’s lifestyle doesn’t make you a nazi. Wanting to punish a gay person in any way because of their lifestyle does.

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            I wasn’t aware of that, nor was it my intention, but I can see how it can be interpreted that way as a “lifestyle” is a way people choose to live. Gay people aren’t choosing a gay lifestyle any more than white people are choosing a white lifestyle.

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              It’s also about implying promiscuity, but yeah the terminology was definitely an effective bit of rhetorical warfare, most people use it out of habit without considering the implications.

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              I understand the opinion, but I don’t know if I agree. If you say someone has a “poor” lifestyle, that’s not a choice necessarily. I always assumed the word includes intrinsic and extrinsic factors.

              Still, it might be the wrong word if some people do think in a way that causes harm.