• Andy@slrpnk.net
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      1 year ago

      I really want to reiterate: it’s a waste of time to debate.

      We all already know that Hamas commits war crimes, and we also already know that none of these war crimes justify Israeli crimes against humanity. Debating whether Hamas used a given hospital to store a specific gun is like debating whether I owe you $100 or $200 for dinner last week when I already owe you $50,000. Who cares’s what the bill was last week? It’s a distraction.

      Here’s where we must insist on putting our attention: generations of occupation and displacement have been a disaster for Palestinians and liberal Israelis. It has only been a success for Jewish supremacists, and those people have been pulling the wool over American liberals for far, far, far too long. We need to get out of debates over any given hospital and demand new leadership in Israel that commits to ending the Israeli apartheid and expanding civil rights to the people living in the Palestinian territories illegally annexed by Israel.

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      1 year ago

      They did NOT confirm that. Can you provide a quote from this video where it says that?

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          1 year ago

          I… didn’t say that. I don’t doubt they did it, but you didn’t post a source and are making claims based on what, exactly? The BBC noted a cut in the video and that the scene could have been rearranged. Idk why you’re so up in arms.

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            1 year ago

            The BBC compared the original video to the one they correspondent took and noticed that the guns had been shuffled and a new gun had been added to the pile.

            If I didn’t link the full video, that’s my bad. I’m not sure how to link BBC broadcasts.

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              1 year ago

              Sure but to say they outright accused Israel of planting them is wrong. Good information is already hard enough to find. They are still pussyfooting around it and took a fairly neutral and evidence based view. That is all I’m saying

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                1 year ago

                A new gun was placed in the pile before it was shown to journalists.

                How, exactly, do you define “planting” if that’s not it?

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                  1 year ago

                  Why can’t that be an additional gun they found? Maybe it was rearranged for camera? The BBC segment did not make any hard claims just that the evidence was suspect. You can draw your own conclusions but you can’t say the BBC outright made this claim. Don’t trust the IDF blindly, but I have to approach reporting on the conflict this way to stay sane. Too many people spewing nonsense, misinformation, and propaganda (not u specifically).

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                    1 year ago

                    The IDF, claiming that they’re giving journalists unadulterated access to a supposed Hamas base: