• cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    This needs to happen with Appl too. AppleTV/Safari/Messages/etc app for MacOS + SIP my ass. Its not integral and if you’ve made it so you need to unmake it so, along with other bundled crap. SIP should literally refer to that and only that in aggregate which is necessary to ensure the system is able to function, not per se function in an un-overruleable way for the maker.

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      Don’t forget TV brands like samsung and LG who force some apps down your throat even if you don’t want them. You can’t remove those apps. Amazon is even worse with their firetv devices, they just install apps on your behalf that you can’t remove. We don’t own anything anymore.

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        8 months ago

        Ya but I can just use a box and not have the TV itself connected to the internet and you can have it in gaming mode so you basically never see the splash screen with all tha crap

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      You Linux supremecists are so edgy…

      I use Linux sometimes, too… But like… This shit is getting so old.

      We get it, you like Linux. Now let people talk about other platforms without constantly talking about your platform.

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        I only have Linux on my servers at home and at work, as well as on my laptop, and I agree with that, it’s arrogant and getting so damn old. Lemmy has such a boner for Linux and loves shoving it in everyone’s faces.

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          You do realize that Lemmy is an opensource platform, which runs on Linux, and is maintained by volunteers who are passionate about Linux? Does it really come as surprise that Lemmy is full of Linux enthusiasts?

          If you don’t like all the Linux talk here, feel free to move to a proprietary social network instead, maybe one with a red alien logo or with a blue ‘f’…

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            Being an enthusiast doesn’t mean you have to preach about it everywhere you go. This post isn’t talking about Linux whatsoever. They’re starting to remind me of religious nuts that always make everything about their religion.

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              But its not the same person preaching about it everywhere now is it? If you think you’re seeing it everywhere, it’s because this is a community built and run by Linux enthusiasts, so naturally you’ll see a lot of people talking about Linux here.

              This post isn’t talking about Linux whatsoever.

              No, but OP was talking an alternative solution, which of course, was tongue-in-cheek, but apparently it triggered the parent poster in a PTSD sort of manner.

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                It’s not the same religious nut preaching about it everywhere, either, doesn’t make it any less annoying. It also doesn’t make it any less annoying to be preached everyday even if you live in a community based around the religion.

                It’s also not about people talking about Linux. As a subscriber to Linux memes and Linux gaming communities, I have no issue with people talking about Linux. It’s when they are plugging Linux in an article that has nothing to do with it, especially in a community that is very aware about the existence of Linux, that it simply becomes a circlejerk and an attention seeking behaviour, instead of providing actually useful response to the post.

                Everyone here knows Linux is an alternative to Windows, we don’t need the crazy Linux fanboys reminding us by posting stupid jokes about it on non-Linux posts.

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        your platform.

        You do realize you’re posting this on a opensource platform, which runs on Linux, and is maintained by volunteers who are enthusiastic about this stuff?

        If you don’t like all the Linux talk here, feel free to move to a proprietary platform instead, maybe one with a red alien logo…

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        Because Linux, by its very nature, is the solution to these kinds problems, but if you insist on suffering through using Windows thats on you.

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        I mean… Linux does solve the problem described. Why pay for a platform with the problem when the solution is free?

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    Can you just do right click uninstall? or do you have to follow a 12 step hacker method that would cause updates to stop working until you reinstall windows again?

    Windows has become the most bloated ad-infested spyware os in existance and more people are leaving it more than ever before. In just few more years, it will be a thing of the past

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      Reading the article, you do some registry edits to tell Windows that it’s in Europe. Then you uninstall as if you were in Europe. No word on what other consequences this might have.

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        If you have to tell Windows that you are in Europe then the title is nonsense.

        “You drink alcohol even if you’re underage”… All you have to do is Lie, and get a fake ID". > Wow thanks.

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    I give it less than a year before this goes the way of the Windows 10 start menu registry tweak.

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    8 months ago

    Does this also impact Apple, will they also need to allow removing Safari? If yes, is it possible that they might allow removing other things like iMessage and Apple TV?

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        What I do to install software on my Linux PC:

        Open the app store. Search. Click install. Done.

        Updates are done through the same app store that I used to install it.

        What I do to install software on my Windows PC:

        Open my web browser. Search for the software. Pick the right website (with most software this is easy, for some software it’s not immediately clear, be careful not to download from a dodgy site). Navigate to the downloads page. Pick 64-bit Windows (not Mac!). Press download. Open file explorer. Navigate to Downloads. Find the installer exe. Double click. Go through the installer. Press next/tick/untick options. Press finish. Go back to the file explorer, delete the installer exe. Go to my desktop, delete the shortcut it has added (I hate it how every installer seems to do this!)

        Updates are either done when I open the app and it does a check, which is frustrating, when I open an app I want it to open, I don’t want to see a prompt to update, OR through a separate updater app that runs at startup, making my PC sluggish at boot.

        There are shortcomings in Linux, and there are things Windows does pretty well. It’s funny that you picked the thing Linux is literally the best at hands down, and Windows is the worst at, hands down. It’d be like if you complained about MacOS not being visually consistent lol

        You should have picked something that Linux is genuinely bad at, like HDR support or something.

        E: pictures say a thousand words. Here’s the difference:

        Installing an app on Windows: https://imgur.com/a/QoLzZlk

        Installing an app on Linux: https://imgur.com/a/prsi9ZW

        Again, truly, I’m not here to say Windows is unusable and Linux is perfect, but of all the examples to praise windows and shit on Linux for, you chose software installation? Are you actually insane?? lmao

        • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zone
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          You missed the bit where you scan it with an antivirus program which flags it but the download site says that might happen and you have to decide who to believe

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          I’m sorry, but the “fragmentation” of Linux distros and the number of ways to install a program on Linux are also issues.

          On Linux (or at least Ubuntu), you have to manage sources to install some programs, and that is WAY too complex for an end user. Fine, you can always use the CLI or search online, but then you run into fragmentation issues. “Why is there no Ubuntu download? Do I click the RPM one?”

          On Windows, yes, it’s more clicks on average, but it’s a very consistent experience across all programs. You either open up the Microsoft Store, or you Google the name of the program you want and hit “next” until it’s done. No managing sources and no deciding which file extension you need. The only issue would be deciding between 32 bit and 64 bit.

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            No, you search the store, pick the app, press install. The end user doesn’t care or know whether the package manager is installing a flatpak or an RPM.

            It’s not like people installing Windows programs need to know whether the installer is an .exe or an .MSI file, they just know that pressing the installer they downloaded brings up an installer. They don’t need to know about the low-level packaging fundamentals.

            It’s not just more clicks on average, it’s more confusion, more prone to installing non-genuine software, and still fragmented. Do I install 32 bit? 64? Arm32? Arm64?

            As for there are too many ways to install a program, what nonsense is that? You’re not made to open the terminal, just as you are not made to open powershell and use Winget. You can literally use this exact same argument against windows, yet you aren’t.

            Look at the pictures I linked to. One is far easier than the other, and Windows isn’t the easy one.