The people didn’t hold President Yoon accountable. Parliament did.
We have the same system in the US. Congress holds the US President accountable the same way Parliament held Yoon accountable, with a vote.
The problem is that we voted in a fuckton of Trump loyalists as a nation, and it’ll be up to them to hold him accountable. We’ll get what we asked for.
Yes and no. Yes, it is true that more uneducated people voted for Trump, and lack of education means people do not understand the risks and negative implications of voting for Trump over Harros for themselves. No, that argument doesn’t explain the whole picture. It is also true that educated people who understand the implications voted for him anyway because they saw it as benefiting them/their worldviews. Keep in mind half of college educated male voters and over a third of college educated female voters went for Trump.
Sure we can quibble about the median quality of a college education in the US, you you have to draw the line somewhere. But the issue I’m pointing at is people get lazy conflating education with social progressiveness and egalitarianism and dismiss people with different worldviews as “uneducated”. There are plenty of intelligent well-educated people who are morally bankrupt or deeply mistaken. After all, eugenics came from some of the most “educated” minds in the world.
If you buy into the propaganda, that means you aren’t educated nor intelligent, sorry dude. You can be rocket scientist and still be considered uneducated and unintelligent.
My friend, the messages that only uneducated people can be pro-fascist and educated people are immune to propaganda is propagandistic. It’s reductive and misleading. Evil does not limit itself to the ignorant.
Still,I think we have different meanings of “educated”
My mistake, and yes, I’m fully aware of the democratic process. Are you aware that many of the people who voted for Trump are voting for a coup?
My point is that the US citizens that want to stop Trump are now powerless to do so, whether they voted and stumped for Harris, or have since changed their mind about Trump. Between SCOTUS’s ruling and Trump’s prior use of National Guard, there will be no safe way to protest.
Condescension in no way helps those who oppose Trump. Be constructive if you truly care.
They weren’t powerless dude, and it was the lack of education for the last century that lead to it.
You’re trying to blame something other than the problem dude, you don’t have a point here, you’re just bitching about what everyone already knows, but it apparently needs to be pointed out to Americans.
You’re preaching to the choir. Most of Lemmy is anti-Trump. Maybe they should post this somewhere where people haven’t spent the last eight months discussing ways to stop him.
We get it. We don’t want him either. There’s also no stopping a coup if that’s what he sets his sights on.
Wait isn’t that why your citizens are armed? To stop this exact thing…?
No, we’re armed to stop an invading army. We put that in the bill of rights while keeping one eye on France and the other on Britain. All of our laws and traditions regarding the government were written assuming that the people would only vote for someone who wanted to do a good job being president.
It turns out that when you design a country to favor rich men, then let those rich men amass unfathomable generational wealth and teach the populace that money and power=trustworthiness, you end up with a fetid cesspool. As you pointed out, the people certainly aren’t powerless in this situation, just too uninformed, misinformed, and afraid to do anything about it. You’re talking about a country where people say that corporations are evil but somehow empowering the people with unions is worse. We say that billionaires are manipulating the country and destroying politics, and then vote for a (alleged) billionaires. The leopards aren’t just eating our faces, we’re even making up excuses for the leopards between bloodcurdling screams and say that this is the only way to hurt other people, as if siccing leopards on your peers is actually a reasonable course of action.
The people didn’t hold President Yoon accountable. Parliament did.
We have the same system in the US. Congress holds the US President accountable the same way Parliament held Yoon accountable, with a vote.
The problem is that we voted in a fuckton of Trump loyalists as a nation, and it’ll be up to them to hold him accountable. We’ll get what we asked for.
Yeah… that’s the uneducated citizens part dude…
Yes and no. Yes, it is true that more uneducated people voted for Trump, and lack of education means people do not understand the risks and negative implications of voting for Trump over Harros for themselves. No, that argument doesn’t explain the whole picture. It is also true that educated people who understand the implications voted for him anyway because they saw it as benefiting them/their worldviews. Keep in mind half of college educated male voters and over a third of college educated female voters went for Trump.
Just an aside here to say I appreciate your unwillingness to over simplify this discussion.
USA educated* we just talked about how the education system is broken dude….
Sure we can quibble about the median quality of a college education in the US, you you have to draw the line somewhere. But the issue I’m pointing at is people get lazy conflating education with social progressiveness and egalitarianism and dismiss people with different worldviews as “uneducated”. There are plenty of intelligent well-educated people who are morally bankrupt or deeply mistaken. After all, eugenics came from some of the most “educated” minds in the world.
If you buy into the propaganda, that means you aren’t educated nor intelligent, sorry dude. You can be rocket scientist and still be considered uneducated and unintelligent.
My friend, the messages that only uneducated people can be pro-fascist and educated people are immune to propaganda is propagandistic. It’s reductive and misleading. Evil does not limit itself to the ignorant. Still,I think we have different meanings of “educated”
There’s no need to be condescending. Your meme implies that it was the people who stopped Yoon’s declaration of martial law. I was just clarifying.
Not my meme, and yes, did the people not vote in the people who stopped it…? That’s how its supposed to work dude lmfao.
My mistake, and yes, I’m fully aware of the democratic process. Are you aware that many of the people who voted for Trump are voting for a coup?
My point is that the US citizens that want to stop Trump are now powerless to do so, whether they voted and stumped for Harris, or have since changed their mind about Trump. Between SCOTUS’s ruling and Trump’s prior use of National Guard, there will be no safe way to protest.
Condescension in no way helps those who oppose Trump. Be constructive if you truly care.
They weren’t powerless dude, and it was the lack of education for the last century that lead to it.
You’re trying to blame something other than the problem dude, you don’t have a point here, you’re just bitching about what everyone already knows, but it apparently needs to be pointed out to Americans.
You’re preaching to the choir. Most of Lemmy is anti-Trump. Maybe they should post this somewhere where people haven’t spent the last eight months discussing ways to stop him.
We get it. We don’t want him either. There’s also no stopping a coup if that’s what he sets his sights on.
Wait isn’t that why your citizens are armed? To stop this exact thing…?
Dude go bitch somewhere else lmfao. And again, not my meme you muppet.
No, we’re armed to stop an invading army. We put that in the bill of rights while keeping one eye on France and the other on Britain. All of our laws and traditions regarding the government were written assuming that the people would only vote for someone who wanted to do a good job being president.
It turns out that when you design a country to favor rich men, then let those rich men amass unfathomable generational wealth and teach the populace that money and power=trustworthiness, you end up with a fetid cesspool. As you pointed out, the people certainly aren’t powerless in this situation, just too uninformed, misinformed, and afraid to do anything about it. You’re talking about a country where people say that corporations are evil but somehow empowering the people with unions is worse. We say that billionaires are manipulating the country and destroying politics, and then vote for a (alleged) billionaires. The leopards aren’t just eating our faces, we’re even making up excuses for the leopards between bloodcurdling screams and say that this is the only way to hurt other people, as if siccing leopards on your peers is actually a reasonable course of action.
We aren’t stupid, we’re aggressively stupid.
Again with the condescension. You must have made a lot of friends with that winning personality.
Have a good day.
That’s how we’re told it’s supposed to work, but that’s not how it really works. BBC: [Princeton and Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
How do you think representative government is supposed to work?
It’s the same in every bourgeois democracy: the representatives represent the capitalist class over the working class. BBC: [Princeton and Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
Which is why I said “supposed to,” not “in actuality.”
Pick one.
Ha…ha?
If you ignore the 4 years that it wasn’t a bunch of Trump loyalists that came before the vote.