• chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    He was having an affair with a woman almost 30 years older than himself, and she died in 1951. I would lean more towards him being upset about something between them, than supposed pedophilia.

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      26 days ago

      He was having an affair with a woman almost 30 years older than himself, and she died in 1951

      And surely a wealthy Christian man in England 70 years ago would never be hypocritical…

      But like I said, maybe it’s a coincidence and not an intended statement. But the books are incredibly preachy and Lewis writes as if his personal beliefs are clearly and obviously the right and only beliefs.

      It’s been decades since I’ve read them, but I’m not the only one with that takeaway from his writings.

      And while a child being married under 16 immediately sounds like pedophilia to you (as it should) this was back when the law was being passed and lots opposed it. There were people fighting it for decades after even.

      And it literally explains why Susan was held to a different standard than Pete:

      This section re-enacts section 1 of the Age of Marriage Act 1929 which set the minimum marriage age at 16 with consent of parents or guardians and 21 (since lowered to 18) without that consent. Marriages contracted by persons either of whom is under the age of 16 years are void.[10][11] Before 1929, the common law and canon law applied so that a person who had attained the legal age of puberty could contract a valid marriage. A marriage contracted by persons either of whom was under the legal age of puberty was voidable. The legal age of puberty was 14 for males and 12 for females.

      In 1971, Eekelaar wrote that the prohibition now contained in this section “though desirable, is extreme and inflexible.” According to him it could result in “genuine hardship”, such as where it is discovered, after years of apparent marriage, that a mistake was made, at the time of the ceremony, regarding the age of one of the spouses, or where one of the spouses concealed their real age, though, after 1971, some protection was afforded by section 6 of the Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1970[12] (now repealed and replaced by the Inheritance (Provision for Family and Dependants) Act 1975).

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_Act_1949

      So while you think I’m making an assumption in saying his opposition to this law was likely and may have influenced what he wrote about…

      You’ve also twisted that into me labeling him a pedo that wants to marry a child younger than 16 and implied everyone agreed that this law was a good thing. One thing you’ve just invented and another that’s easily disproven

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        26 days ago

        I gave a fact; that he was having an affair with an older woman who died shortly after the book was published. You are the one who claims that he was upset about child marriage. When we talk about people making things up, let’s remember who is basing their posts in facts, and who is basing them in unrelated conjecture.

        Here’s my “theory”. He was having an affair with a woman, and like all hypocrites, he wanted to feel as though it was something that others were guilty of, too. So, he had a woman who, at the end of her life, is having regrets about their relationship. Lewis is upset that she doesn’t like their relationship anymore, and he vilifies her and in his writing says that she’s not getting into heaven because she’s an adultress.

        Do I have any proof? No. Do you? No, also. However, this is based on real events that happened to him, and your idea is just “well, maybe he was into child marriage.”

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        25 days ago

        Lewis is well-known for having an Oedipus complex. There is nothing to indicate he was attracted to or abused children.

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          25 days ago

          Great.

          Why do you think I said he was?

          Genuinely asking because for some reason when I said he was likely against the law like most religious people were, that meant he personally wanted a bride under 16

          And I legitimately would like to know why, even after I explicitly said this:

          You’ve also twisted that into me labeling him a pedo that wants to marry a child younger than 16 and implied everyone agreed that this law was a good thing. One thing you’ve just invented and another that’s easily disproven

          What about that did you read and think I meant Lewis wanted to marry a child?

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            25 days ago

            Because all you’re doing is wildly speculating about a man without a shred of evidence.