• wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    Holy crap he is just continuing to build the case against him. His own for-profit automattic’s plugins have built in upsells and add additional data harvesting code that you can’t opt out of while you use them.

    He just keeps treating the non-profit .org stuff and his Automattic for-profit as interchangable.

    It’s time for the community to find a solution for distributed update servers that at most only rely on Mullenweg for hash checking to prevent tanpering. This is blatantly just a vendetta now.

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    1 month ago

    This is so frustrating as a -very- longtime user and proponent of WP and a current WPE customer. Mullenweg is coming across as petty and out-of-touch with his user base.

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    Haven’t dived too deep in this case. But aren’t WP engine leeching the open source project while barely contributing back to the OSS project?

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      I’d like to preface this with the fact that I do donate time, money, and on occasion PRs to open source projects.

      But frankly, I don’t believe anyone has any obligation to donate to an open source project.

      I also don’t think anyone has any obligation to give 8% of their revenue to a project that’s completely under the control of a man that ALSO runs a commercial entity extracting money from the same project.

      And I REALLY don’t think you have any obligation to give a guy worth $400 million one damn cent for using his GPL-ed software.

      It’s not like he’s going to take the money and give it to the people in the community developing it, it’s going to go into his business - and thus right into his pockets.

      This is just CEO corpo greed, and frankly, screw Matt. He has enough, and if his business is falling over because he got greedy and got into bed with VC and bought a failed social media network, well, that’s his problem and not everyone who uses Wordpress’.

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        I completely agree that individuals have no responsibility to contribute, and thank you for your own contributions. But I completely disagree that a company like WP Engine should get a free pass. I see this as a paradox of tolerance and someone is willing to lose face and money over it. He didn’t get to $400m by hording, he got there by creating and sharing WordPress and promoting a community that is supposed to lift us all up

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          I’m not saying they shouldn’t contribute; I’m saying there’s no universe in where you should be forced to give 8% (or any amount of) of your revenue to another business as a tithe to be allowed to use GPL software.

          It’s the method of extraction I’m disagreeing with here, not that they shouldn’t contribute to what their business runs on.

          And yes, technically it’s the Trademark we’re discussing rather than the software, but, ultimately, not being able to use the name of the thing is the same impact from a business perspective. Especially because Matt made sure that only Matt has a license to use the name and Matt is the only one who can decide if Matt should allow someone else to use it, also.

          It’d be like Linus saying that Canonical can’t use the Linux trademark, and then going on an unhinged rant in public about how it’s theft that they’re using his trademark.

          community that is supposed to lift us all up

          Sadly, Matt is busy lighting that community on fire because he thinks he’s owed something for a business (which he also used to own a major portion of, for the extra lols) using GPLed software, which is also something I, in general, disagree with: the whole point of free software is that it’s free. If you want to get rich, make some proprietary software that everyone must use.

          creating and sharing WordPress

          The hilarious thing here is that WordPress is, itself, a fork of GPLed software. Not saying he didn’t spend an enormous amount of time and resources on improving it, but B2 is the reason it’s under GPL (since Matt would probably have picked a different license, if he could have.)

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      Then the mistake was made many years ago by releasing the code under GPLv2, with no obligation to contribute back.