• toastal@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Unironically awesome. You can debate if it hurts the ability to contribute to a project, but folks should be allowed to express themselves in the language they choose & not be forced into ASCII or English. Where I live, English & Romantic languages are not the norm & there are few programmers since English is seen as a perquisite which is a massive loss for accessibility.

    The hotter take: languages like APL, BQN, & Uiua had it right building on symbols (like we did in math class) for abstract ideas & operations inside the language, where you can choose to name the variables whatever makes sense to you & your audience.

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      Yeah. Tbh, I always wondered why programming languages weren’t translated.

      I know CS is all about english, but at least the default builtin functions of programming languages could get translated (as well as APIs that care about themselves).

      Like, I can’t say I don’t like it this way (since I’m a native english speaker), but I still wonder what if you could translate code.

      Variables could cause problems (more work with translation or hard to understand if not translated). But still - programming languages have no declentions and syntax is simpler so it shouldn’t even compare to “real” languages with regards to difficulty of implementation.

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        Excel functions are translated. This leads to being pretty much locked out of any support beyond documentation if your system language isn’t English.

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        Programs aren’t written by a single team of developers that speak the same language. You’d be calling a library by a Hungarian with additions from an Indian in a framework developed by Germans based on original work by Mexicans.

        If no-one were forcing all of them to use English by only allowing English keywords, they’d name their variables and functions in their local language and cause mayhem to readability.

        [Edit:] Even with all keywords being forced to English, there’s often half-localized code.

        I can’t find the source right now, but I strongly believe that Steve McConnell has a section in one of his books where he quotes a function commented in French and asks, “Can you tell the pitfall the author is warning you about? It’s something about a NullPointerException”. McConnell then advises against local languages even in comments