• themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    The worst part is it’s not that far fetched, we’re actually pretty lucky that valve isn’t massively predatory and we didn’t end up with bobby kotick instead of gaben

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      1 month ago

      The entire gambling lootboxes were massively popularized by Valve, turning Team Fortress 2 from pay2play to predatory gambling.

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        1 month ago

        TF2 is not and has never been pay for anything except cosmetics.

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          1 month ago

          I come from a time where we all lost our shit over horse armor being sold. Your comment just reminds me they have normalized things. They won.

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            I’ve never understood what’s so bad about letting people pay for virtual cosmetics. You can still play 100% of the game.

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              1 month ago

              Well… No. Those cosmetics are part of the game. You should be able to unlock them through gameplay.

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            1 month ago

            I mean you are right to some degree, but considering there’s way worse stuff to get riled up about, I think we mostly have our priorities straight, and I have no issues with that.

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        1 month ago

        And valve tried to push the paid mods shit, too bad people forget too quickly. Not saying valve is straight up bad, but they aren’t your friends either

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        I guess because I never played TF2 back then my experience of games having predatory gambling mechanics was mobile games with the f2p and low costs pushing towards different ways to monetize. Seemed inevitable once mobile gaming exploded and makes up a larger portion of revenue than PC and console gaming making other companies want to copy it.