cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/138601

“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

  • leftytighty@slrpnk.netEnglish
    53·
    3 months ago

    the west has nothing to do with it they just simply set up the settler colonial apartheid state and gave it infinite weapons and constantly protect it from any retaliation.

      • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.worldEnglish
        01·
        2 months ago

        mojofrododojo, You should do some reading about how and why Hamas was formed. It was formed with Israeli and Russian help to fight the PLO and the two state solution mandated by the UN. It was initially formed to be nonreligious but Israel insisted it be religious.

        "…Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

        “The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”"

        https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

        This was always about shattering Palestine, taking their land, and using the vagaries of religious conflict as an excuse no one would dig too hard on.

        • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          lol I’ve been reading about Palestinian history for decades. you schmucks bought the british bullshit about the land being yours. and instead of cohabitating in peace, each side chose to murder people. over and over again. you build a settlement, they blow something up, you burn down their farms, they assassinate somebody. it never ends because both sides are certain god is with them.

          it will never end as long as both sides keep listening to their invisible friends.

      • leftytighty@slrpnk.netEnglish
        13·
        3 months ago

        They also wear shoes maybe the shoes are to blame.

        As it always was and always has been, religion is used as a tool and an excuse but it’s not the root cause.

        • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          if shoes caused people to hate and murder each other that argument would make sense.

          religion is the lever, put to the work of violence by amoral people, an easy task when they each assert theirs is the only way.

          pfft. shoes.