What Reddit has that lemmy doesn’t though is something called “nuance.” Which is how you end up with shit-tier posts like this one getting upvoted here.
For all the fault Reddit has, and there is a FUCKTONS of it, no one that I’ve seen on Reddit supports genocide- that is, unless you go to specific subreddits. But then again, there are specific communities here that also seem to support it.
So, no- What the problem is here- is that OP is notorious for accusing EVERYONE of supporting genocide if they so much as even slightly disagree with their bullshit. The mod logs speak for themselves in the event anyone wants to challenge this and accuse me of lying.
In fact, they were recently banned from a community for exactly that. They have a history of spreading misinformation and trolling.
Now, let’s see how accurate I was about that whole nuance thing.
The largest problem facing wider adoption of Lemmy IMO is that many of the people who were banned from reddit for being poorly socialized ended up on a Lemmy instance, and many of them remain unwilling to view their behavior as the problem.
Many mods/admins need to do a better job of keeping their communities welcoming, imo. Engagement for engagement’s sake makes no sense on nonprofit platforms.
Why are we blaming voters again when a million dollar campaign loses against a historically unpopular criminal insurrectionist president… ?
The campaign has the power to pander to voters if it’s clear they can’t win without doing so, they just refuse to and instead are comfortably riding the threat of Trump to the finish line without offering a single thing more.
Your fellow voters that conscientiously object to genocide, are not your enemy. You are being failed by the Democrats, and you are enabling this genocidal policy by directing your anger at the voters instead of pressuring your candidate to change it. If they lose, it’s a strategic failure and they are the only ones to blame for it.
New flash- almost everyone objects to genocide. You don’t belong do some grassroots movement of high-minded academics that somehow managed to figure out that genocide is bad.
And that’s what people who vote for Harris are doing. Because they understand how things work. You’re free to throw away your vote in protest of things that have been going on since before you ever could point to Palestine on a map…
but the rest of us are going to try our best to ensure you continue to have the rights to be able to do that. Do be sure to accuse me of supporting genocide on the way out. It does wonders to garner support for your ideology.
Acting like you’re superior and “understand how things work” better than anyone else, not recognizing the obvious wedge being driven between democratic voters and left-wing voters whom we otherwise agree with, is also doing wonders for your side. I’m sure your vote will make the difference in protecting rights that the Democrats have done absolutely nothing to defend in the face of power grabs and media smears from the right. I’m certain that the Democrats will do the right thing, just out of the goodness and JOY of their hearts, nevermind that their power is guaranteed by the Republicans being a worse option.
Never said you were supporting it, I said you were enabling it. If you want to conflate the two to protect your ego then that’s up to you.
If understanding how things work is what makes a person superior, you probably don’t want to be shitting on it, but maybe trying to get there yourself.
But I don’t feel as if I’m in any way superior because I get how the real world works. I do however, feel superior because I don’t accuse people of shit they aren’t doing, like say…. sUpPoRtiNG gEnoCiDe!
What I see here a lot though, is what seems to be a bunch of smug and arrogant people sitting on high, casting aspersions at others because they support someone that is doing their best to ensure we keep our democracy.
What I see, are people willing to throw away votes over single-issue protests that most of them have shown not to even understand.
I’m not going to apologize to you for paying attention. That’s not a fault. It’s an obligation.
If understanding how things work is what makes a person superior
Didn’t say that
you probably don’t want to be shitting on it
Didn’t do that
accuse people of shit they aren’t doing, like say…. sUpPoRtiNG gEnoCiDe! […] casting aspersions at others
Didn’t do that either, see my last reply to this thread
what seems to be a bunch of smug and arrogant people sitting on high,
Tell me how you’re not doing that same exact thing
someone that is doing their best to ensure we keep our democracy.
No they’re not
What I see, are people is the democratic party willing to throw away votes over single-issue protests
FTFY
most of them have shown not to even understand.
Again, you’re assuming your understanding is better than anyone else’s and not colored by billion dollar, lifelong propaganda campaigns, manufacturing consent to enact bloody imperialism on the rest of the world and keep the (lucrative for private capital) war machine turning, rather than any actual history of the conflict in palestine or actual material plan to “protect democracy” here at home.
I’m not going to apologize to you for paying attention.
Hilarious! It’s a badge of honor to have a socialists compartmentalize and pick apart your comments with their notes and insufferable smug corrections.
Really? It’s not obvious? Op is blatantly and flat out accusing an entire social media platform of supporting genocide.
No One is supporting it because they are voting for Harris. That’s misinformation. It’s blatant propaganda. And it’s evidence of a bad-faith attempt to influence an election.
So wait, Harris is for a change of policy regarding Israel? Pretty sure she wants to continue on what was before - which is longstanding support of Israel, which at the moment is committing genocide.
You aren’t arguing with me because you want to handwave support for genocide as “nuance”, call everyone talking about it a propagandist and sleep better at night knowing you support “the good guys”.
What Reddit has that lemmy doesn’t though is something called “nuance.” Which is how you end up with shit-tier posts like this one getting upvoted here.
For all the fault Reddit has, and there is a FUCKTONS of it, no one that I’ve seen on Reddit supports genocide- that is, unless you go to specific subreddits. But then again, there are specific communities here that also seem to support it.
So, no- What the problem is here- is that OP is notorious for accusing EVERYONE of supporting genocide if they so much as even slightly disagree with their bullshit. The mod logs speak for themselves in the event anyone wants to challenge this and accuse me of lying.
In fact, they were recently banned from a community for exactly that. They have a history of spreading misinformation and trolling.
Now, let’s see how accurate I was about that whole nuance thing.
The largest problem facing wider adoption of Lemmy IMO is that many of the people who were banned from reddit for being poorly socialized ended up on a Lemmy instance, and many of them remain unwilling to view their behavior as the problem.
Many mods/admins need to do a better job of keeping their communities welcoming, imo. Engagement for engagement’s sake makes no sense on nonprofit platforms.
Lemmy being the Australia of social networks. We do what we can mate 🇦🇺
Why are we blaming voters again when a million dollar campaign loses against a historically unpopular criminal insurrectionist president… ?
The campaign has the power to pander to voters if it’s clear they can’t win without doing so, they just refuse to and instead are comfortably riding the threat of Trump to the finish line without offering a single thing more.
Your fellow voters that conscientiously object to genocide, are not your enemy. You are being failed by the Democrats, and you are enabling this genocidal policy by directing your anger at the voters instead of pressuring your candidate to change it. If they lose, it’s a strategic failure and they are the only ones to blame for it.
New flash- almost everyone objects to genocide. You don’t belong do some grassroots movement of high-minded academics that somehow managed to figure out that genocide is bad.
Wow so it sounds like being the non-genocidal option would be a great way to get people to vote for you if you really care about winning
And that’s what people who vote for Harris are doing. Because they understand how things work. You’re free to throw away your vote in protest of things that have been going on since before you ever could point to Palestine on a map…
but the rest of us are going to try our best to ensure you continue to have the rights to be able to do that. Do be sure to accuse me of supporting genocide on the way out. It does wonders to garner support for your ideology.
Acting like you’re superior and “understand how things work” better than anyone else, not recognizing the obvious wedge being driven between democratic voters and left-wing voters whom we otherwise agree with, is also doing wonders for your side. I’m sure your vote will make the difference in protecting rights that the Democrats have done absolutely nothing to defend in the face of power grabs and media smears from the right. I’m certain that the Democrats will do the right thing, just out of the goodness and JOY of their hearts, nevermind that their power is guaranteed by the Republicans being a worse option.
Never said you were supporting it, I said you were enabling it. If you want to conflate the two to protect your ego then that’s up to you.
If understanding how things work is what makes a person superior, you probably don’t want to be shitting on it, but maybe trying to get there yourself.
But I don’t feel as if I’m in any way superior because I get how the real world works. I do however, feel superior because I don’t accuse people of shit they aren’t doing, like say…. sUpPoRtiNG gEnoCiDe!
What I see here a lot though, is what seems to be a bunch of smug and arrogant people sitting on high, casting aspersions at others because they support someone that is doing their best to ensure we keep our democracy.
What I see, are people willing to throw away votes over single-issue protests that most of them have shown not to even understand.
I’m not going to apologize to you for paying attention. That’s not a fault. It’s an obligation.
lol
Didn’t say that
Didn’t do that
Didn’t do that either, see my last reply to this thread
Tell me how you’re not doing that same exact thing
No they’re not
FTFY
Again, you’re assuming your understanding is better than anyone else’s and not colored by billion dollar, lifelong propaganda campaigns, manufacturing consent to enact bloody imperialism on the rest of the world and keep the (lucrative for private capital) war machine turning, rather than any actual history of the conflict in palestine or actual material plan to “protect democracy” here at home.
Neither will I
Never said it was and I agree.
Hilarious! It’s a badge of honor to have a socialists compartmentalize and pick apart your comments with their notes and insufferable smug corrections.
I always love it when this happens.
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Thanks for proving my point. I couldn’t have scripted that better! Seems you’re running out of places to post your propaganda.
I love that for you!
So are you denying that genocide is happening right now in Palestine or what? Because I don’t really understand the misinformation claim here
Really? It’s not obvious? Op is blatantly and flat out accusing an entire social media platform of supporting genocide.
No One is supporting it because they are voting for Harris. That’s misinformation. It’s blatant propaganda. And it’s evidence of a bad-faith attempt to influence an election.
So wait, Harris is for a change of policy regarding Israel? Pretty sure she wants to continue on what was before - which is longstanding support of Israel, which at the moment is committing genocide.
I’m not going to argue this with you. I know what you’re about and I’m not falling for it.
Just lean what nuance means. And try and do better in the future.
You aren’t arguing with me because you want to handwave support for genocide as “nuance”, call everyone talking about it a propagandist and sleep better at night knowing you support “the good guys”.
I’m not going to argue with you because no matter what I say, as evident above- you are going to rewrite my words, and argue against that.
In other words, I don’t debate straw men.