• ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place
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      2 months ago

      Usual propaganda from pro-genocide people: considering that Israel is the whole Jewish world so any kind of critics towards them can be tagged as antisemitism.

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        If you don’t like being compared to Nazis, maybe stop doing things that Nazis would do? Such as an ethnic cleansing?

        Idk, just an idea…

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            You’re right, it’s more like a genocide. After all, they’re just bombing everything indiscriminately, starving people to death, blocking humanitarian aid and occupying illegally territories that don’t belong to them.

            Not to mention that they basically shot to kill everyone they find, be it an UN worker, a child or an US citizen protesting.

            But hey, god forbid we criticise what those bastards do, we wouldn’t like to be called antisemitic…

            Fuck Netanyahu, fuck his government and fuck everyone supporting what they are doing in Gaza.

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                I’m pretty sure that if we’re not seeing more deaths it is because the international community would have trouble trying to justify it. But not because Netanyahu doesn’t want it.

                They abuse Palestinians in their jails, they kill children, they attack refugee camps… All because “Hamas was hiding there”. I’m sorry but no. There’s a limit to what you can do. And Israel is surpassing it by far. They are not only killing, they are razing cities, they are basically making Gaza uninhabitable and they are blocking humanitarian aid (when they’re not directly destroying it), so yeah, they are trying to starve people.

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        Israel is a State, not people, you can hate it all you want, it doesn’t make you racist.

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            Israel is a sham democracy floated by endless US weapons, don’t worry I hate the US too, and pretty much every other state is slightly lower in my shit list because they’re not actively exterminating people for their settlers right now

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            Israel is a State, racism is towards people. The State of Israel doesn’t represent the opinion of all Jews, I’ve got no problem with Jews who don’t support the State of Israel, I’ve got a problem with Jews and anyone else who does.

            By your logic most of the world was racist towards Americans from 2016 to 2020.

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              It’s the rhetoric used by those who want to be seen as victims. They pretend that you associate the state with the totality of the people forming it. That way it’s easier to control the narrative. And if you look closely, it’s the same they are trying to do with the “Palestine=Hamas” bullshit.

              If you hate Israel, according to them, you hate the whole Jewish world. It’s easier that way to create the “with me or against me” rhetoric.

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                Yeah and clearly you assume that people do the former when they’re doing the latter, like in the OP

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                    No, it’s an illustration of the fact that Israel gets away with war crimes and a comparison to something that is of historical significance to Israelites to show the hypocrisy.

                    They (and you) don’t get to use the racism card to get out of being criticized or compared.

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            That’s like saying, “It’s fine to say that you just hate the government of Nazi Germany, but if that’s the only nation state you hate, it means you’re racist against Germans.” What?

            I hate every apartheid state with equal intensity, however, since South Africa ended their system of apartheid, that just leaves Israel. I suppose if Israel’s system of apartheid was ended first and South Africa’s remained, it would mean I was racist against white people or something. Funny how who I’m “racist” towards is entirely dependant on who’s doing apartheid.