• elrik@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    What if we just got rid of digital advertising altogether in the US? How many issues of privacy, health and personal finance would disappear or be greatly reduced?

    It’s hard for me to imagine what that would look like or the downsides other than to the digital advertising industry itself.

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      2 months ago

      Advertising plays an important role in the sale of digital goods and the physical sale of goods through digital means. It’s the only way you can really drive traffic to unknown markets.

      Without advertising You’re going to be relying on YouTube videos or Google Play store or Apple store to get any sales. Any free online services would probably be a thing of the past. Small businesses would have trouble competing with larger entities can already put products in your face.

      It’s not impossible to remove digital advertising and replace it with something else but I’m pretty sure the something else would be worse than what we have already

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        2 months ago

        I go through significant efforts to block digital advertising at multiple levels. Yet, I do not find it difficult to discover new things to buy (from both small and large businesses).

        For myself, I suspect most of that is supported through online communities related to my interests and hobbies. Those purchases feel more informed and often more intentional too.

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          2 months ago

          That is a very well placed observation from a consumer standpoint. Now consider it from a flower shop in your neighborhood trying to compete with the grocery store and FTD.com

          How are you going to get your foot traffic other than word of mouth and people seeing you in a stripmall?

          Targeted digital ads let you get in front of people in your area. There are very very few local websites anymore.

          I block most ads too, but there’s no denying that occasionally on facebook, some semi-local brewpub goes hey, check out our new menu items and it turns out to be a win for them and for me.

          Advertising is dicey, in a lot of cases, it’s in the hands of the enemy but the economy, especially small business doesn’t float without it.

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            2 months ago

            The way I see it when it comes to physical ads I see them, I walk past, they’re gone. Online targeted advertising is more like if there were a bunch of flying TV screens outside that constantly follow you around and try to take up 90% of your vision while you’re trying to cross the road, and some stores become impossible to enter without an ad-blocker because the doorway is literally jammed with flying TVs.

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        2 months ago

        No, advertising is not necessary when a user can search a catalogue with multiple optional constraints, as we did in the olden days of printed catalogues.

        Advertising is harmful - it’s somebody trying to persuade you that you need to buy a thing. First, you’ll usually know when you need something. Second, the salesman is not someone you’d believe normally.

        It’s an interaction which normally should be initiated by you, not by sellers. Which makes advertising utterly useless immediately.

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          2 months ago

          I’d argue the catalog could be seen as advertising though.

          “This is what you can buy from us” and the language in those catalogs presents everything in the best possible light.

          Catalogs were almost always free, because it marketed products to consumers… Aka advertising.

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            2 months ago
            1. You’d open one only when you wanted it.

            2. A database with various characteristics being the main component and the advertising text not being that is better, yes.

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              2 months ago

              To put it another way, the difference is push vs. pull. A catalogue is a pull offering: the person looking at it is doing so by choice, because they’re interested in what it offers and want to buy something (or at least window shop). An online ad is a push offering: it’s presented to people who did not choose to see it, are not interested in it, and just wish it would go away and let them get on with what they’re actually trying to do. Pull advertising is (usually) acceptable. Push advertising is not.