Put these fascists on https://magatmap.com Fascists should be identified and disenfranchised.
In a similar vein, anybody with information should reach out to the ACC:
https://accollective.noblogs.org/
They document and oust neo nazis/fascists.
I just want to say for the record that if anyone is on trial for brutally beating a KKK member and I’m on the jury I will never ever convict you. That is not a crime.
Oh thank god-
See ya in court Tuesday then!
I would never say something like that on record.
Unrelated fun fact: having that kind of record come up in voir dire would immediately get you kicked off the jury.
Damn OP njm1314, too bad you used your real name and are super easy to find!
Jury Nullification!!!
Seriously people. Know it! Use it!
Unfortunately jury nullification also has a very racist history. Not to say it can’t be used for good now!
As long as it still exists, use it for good I guess.
We can’t change the system in a day, but we can use the tricks that racists use to nudge it in the proper direction.
And if they don’t like it, sure they can go ahead and remove those tricks. Only makes our system more fair and straightforward, which is a good thing.
I don’t normally pick at the physical appearances of people just for the sake of it, but I’ve noticed that Trump attracts a certain type of follower. Take a look at the people in the background of the next Trump rally and tell me what you see.
Those people and these people are the same. Just a bunch of trashy hillbillies. These klansmen are not the fringe supporters of Trump’s cult, they’re the ones down in the front. Like wax statues melting in the sun, their eyes glazed over enraptured as word salad pours out of Donald Trump’s mouth.
And don’t say “well that guy wearing the klan outfit is just a troll, the other people there are not associated with that!”. If you’ve got one Nazi in a bar full of people, you’re in a Nazi bar. If you’ve got one klansman at a Trump rally, you’re at a klan rally.
Could we be disparaging against fascist fuckwads without resorting to classist shit?
Other than the presence of the Klan, those are normal people. This is exactly the kind of elitism they talk about encountering.
oh don’t mind him that’s just Freddy, he don’t like 'em colored folk and gays, he’s a good kid, I knew his momma
Are you fucked în the head? “other than the presence of the Klan, those are normal people” what in the shit does that mean? Why the fuck is the Klan present there? Why is nobody chasing them away? How the shit are you doing anything in your life and you see goddamn nazis next to you waving the swastika and you don’t stop to think “yo, maybe I shouldn’t be here”? How do “normal people” end up mixed with Klan members and just roll with it, motherfucker? HOW?
Because the comment I replied to called all Trump rally goers hillbilly trash in a general sense. Yeah the people in this picture have an issue. Calling everyone who supports Trump hillbilly trash is exactly the elitist take the far right feeds on.
If you have no problem hanging out with Klan members, you are hillbilly trash.
Okay. Find me the picture of klan robes at a Trump rally. If you want to color the entire movement you need that evidence. Not 5 people in the middle of nowhere.
Slightly different than what you’re asking, but in the same line of thought:
You can also search “nazi flag at trump rally”, and get loads of pictures of people at his rallies carrying flags of hate. Just because they’re not necessarily allowed wearing clan hoods does it mean everything is a’ok.
No sir. I’m not seeing that with “Nazi Flag at Trump Rally” and CPAC isn’t even on the radar of the average voter. Most people have their interaction with Trump at his rallies and via conservative news. I’m not saying everything is okay. The man brought back 1800’s xenophobic myths on the national debate stage. But again the average voter isn’t thinking about it that way. They’re engaged with it in a fearful way because that’s how Fox News gave it to them.
And you guys are still massively missing the point. This is a third of our country. Alienating them plays into the hand of extremists. They need to see they’re wrong. Not be shunned out of a society that killed their jobs, left them in broken towns, brought them the opioid crisis, and ignores their needs. They are the epitome of believing government is broken because the Republicans broke it. And you can’t fix that by calling them trash. You have to find a way to bring them good governance again. Get them back into mainstream stuff.
This entire flipping thread has been nothing but a project in othering. And you can’t do that to 33% of your country without severe consequences.
You get judged by the company you keep
So I’m assuming you’re okay with being accused of supporting China and tankies?
And you got that from what?
You hang out in lemmy dont you? This is where the tankie live.
Sure. Judge them for attending a Trump rally. But don’t call them trash people.
People like the ones you’re responding to struggle to fully comprehend that they’re literally attempting to characterize half the country.
A different thread wants to put them all into a “magat map.” Putting aside the dubious idea that mapping the locations of a group of people they’re referring to as literal vermin isn’t gross to begin with, you would be mapping the location of half the population of the United States.
Harris is losing momentum according to polls and Trump is slowly but steadily rising. It’s on average every other person you meet. Disparaging them does nothing except fuel the the charges of elitism, as you note.
Normal people don’t hang out with klansman, we beat the shit out of them.
These people are far from normal. They’re downright weird.
In this picture yes.
As a German I have a solution:
If we see a Nazi, we punch them. And with see, I mean specific symbols, clothing or other specific identifiers.
If I’m on a trump really, I should be able to punch the people in KKK outfits, the ones with swastikas, and the ones with old flags representing nationalism. And I should also be able to call the rest of them out.
I like this solution. It’s a pretty straightforward one.
That’s the problem. There is no evidence of specific symbols at Trump rallies. The commenter above has conflated the people in this picture with all Trump voters.
Remember that every single one of those creatures are going to vote.
Unless you shoot them first. Edit: please don’t shoot anyone. This is not a call for violence
What am I shooting them at?
Well, I count five of them. CT hasn’t been a swing state since Reagan. I wouldn’t be too worried about that changing this cycle.
But just like with other big blue states, like California and Illinois, you often see the perennial losers go full freak mode as a form of coping. Its the same way you see folks in Austin, TX or Miami, FL going full hippie-bumper-sticker on their cars and bikes. Folks sometimes think being louder is a substitute for being more popular.
These are likely the craziest nutjobs Connecticut has to offer. None of them have many friends or families, obviously. Kids probably all are scared of these people.
But they’re not going to exercise, apparently.
They are going to exercise… their right to vote!
I’ll be leaving now. You can stop throwing things.
To be honest, attending that “event” in a KKK robe would do great to show Trump voters who they caucus with lol.
While they could be a plant, the fact that they aren’t being pushed out of the display is still telling.
That is what is happening here. That is youtuber professional douche.
Parts of CT are KKK strongholds.
I have a friend who used to live there and he told me his town had some prominent klansmen there, and there were rallies a town or two away.
In the past they’ve been socially aware enough to keep it to themselves. Since Trump became a thing they’ve gotten bold.
I live in New England so I’m close-ish to where this happened… I’d like to throw something on them like wine to stain their ghost costumes but who knows if thats legal and i dont want to end up in jail since i have responsibilities to people other than just me.
Is tossing glitter on them not assault? I want something that sticks and makes it so they don’t want to wear that outfit anymore. Glitter that’s fine enough never comes out… because it’s micro plastics. I normally avoid glitter but feel this might be an exception. Any other ideas non-violent ideas to make them feel unwelcome??
I want something that sticks so they don’t want to wear that outfit anymore… any other ideas non-violent ideas to make them feel unwelcome??
I’ve got just the thing for you. Vegan milkshakes. Well, any milkshake will do, because the point of throwing a shake is to get them soaked in a liquid that will smell awful if it bakes in the sun. It might stain clothes, and it will certainly be uncomfortable. You should probably use a chocolate shake with the klansmen, it’ll stain their bedsheets real good.
The best part about it is the physical harm inflicted is minimal, while the social harm, humiliation, is pretty significant. This is important because humiliation is the achilles heel of fascists, since their world view is based on imagery, and this action disrupts it.
The other good thing this does is it can be used to make a potential agitator leave so they can clean up.
This, unfortunately, is assault (or some other illegal activity), so keep that in mind.
That’s weird, I thought klansmen don’t have to hide their faces behind hoods anymore after Trump. Someone should tell the guy to get with the times
Their costume makes them easier to identify: in public, down the sights, and in the courtroom. It won’t matter even if someone does tell them. They don’t understand any language but violence.
As a brown man, that’s why I’ve bought a rifle and handgun. If they wish to have a “conversation” with me, then we’ll “talk”.
Thinking about MAC10 bump fire between my 9 and 5.56. But, fuck it’s expensive.
I’m swerving. I won’t even think about it. It’s an involuntary reaction.
I’m not sure what’s worse - the KKK member or the person standing unashamedly next to them showing their face
This is a man who trolls Trump stuff, he often does the KKK thing because, as his sign says, the KKK actually endorsed Trump
And Putin endorsed Kamala
Ok, and?
It dont mean crap who endorsed u
Putin says things like that because he knows it influences people in ways he desires. There is an absolute massive industry the Russian government created to push their stuff. It is meaningless when it comes from him, because he doesn’t actually endorse anyone, he is stirring shit.
The KKK are, A. in the US and voters, and B. endorse candidates they feel most suit their ideology. So a US presidential candidate getting an endorsement from the KKK, vs Putin saying he likes one, are two different things.
What is the person on the right attempting to display in their hand? Is that like a crack pipe or a half eaten sandwich?
Well Byrd led the democratic caucus until the late 80s…
And then?
Clearly replied to the wrong person, mea culpa.
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SPOILERS FOR Red Dead Redemption 2
There is a proxy of the clan in-game. same outfits, etc. You can stumble across them one night and they’re about to light a giant cross on fire…and something goes awry and they light themselves on fire. This is also one of the very very rare instances where you can kill non-gang aligned randos in the game, unprovoked, without a hit to honor.
