Hello! We are excited to announce Steam Families is now available for all users. Steam Families is a collection of new and existing family-related features. It replaces both Steam Family Sharing and Steam Family View, giving you a single location to manage which games your family can access and when they can play. Create a Steam Family To get started, you can create a Steam Family and then invite up to 5 family members.
My assumption is that steams main goal is to provide paying users with good service by minimizing hackers, and second to that, provide QOL features like family share.
Do you agree with that assumption? If not, what do you think the priorities are?
If you do agree with the assumption, what would you have done differently to accommodate both those priorities and your complaint?
You’re trying to use nice words within your assumption, but one can only assume that yes, this is to minimize hackers. Whether this is a good service, does not belong to that assumption. This service is demolished by the constant need to protect every single aspect against hackers. It’s on par with kernel anticheats. A few cheaters ruin it for the rest of us.
The main priority should be family sharing, which is literally what it’s called. It’s not my job to provide a good service. But I do know when a service is prone to bullshit that’ll just punish people for actually trying to be nice and share stuff within their family.
Valve could have just banned the account that was actually cheating, send a mail to the owner, and let them disable the sharing. Punish after.
God you’re annoying. This is a useless discussion that doesn’t have any power over Valve whatsoever. Nor do I even have to be the one to come up with a plan. I actually even already gave a simple plan and you ignored it.
Your arguments that hackers are more important than a parent with a kid are selfish and stupid. You encounter a hacker online and instead of going “oh well, I’m sure that kid will learn sometime” you go “fuck that hacker!!! boohoo!!! valve fix this omfg!!! boohoo”. And force Valve to ruin it for the rest of us.
Valve has a stupid rule here which should be revised and improved for actual families, instead of trying to babyproof the whole goddamn thing. Parents shouldn’t have to babysit their kid when it comes to videogames. It’s actually bad parent and many teenagers would even choose to cheat just to rebel.
How come these concepts are too high for you to grasp?
Nor do I even have to be the one to come up with a plan.
People that just complain without a better improvement in mind didn’t actually care to change anything, because they’ve haven’t shown that there’s a reasonable alternative. Those people don’t care if there’s a practical alternative, they’re just upset that it doesn’t meet their specific needs. They just want to “speak to the manager” and complain. “It’s not my job to fix it! Fix it!”. If that’s quote captures your stance, just lmk and it will save us both some time.
I actually even already gave a simple plan and you ignored it.
I didn’t ignore it, I asked how it would deal with a fundamental enforcement of rules that steam has always done and you’ve ignored that, lol. Are you here to just complain or do you actually want to see if there’s a better way forward? What’s a feasible alternative to handle hackers and provide quality of life improvements like family sharing?
Your arguments that hackers are more important than a parent with a kid are selfish and stupid.
I’d argue that hackers are more important to valve because they implemented VAC bans almost 20 years ago. They just now announced a family sharing feature and you’re pretending that steam was meant to be designed around the family to start, which is an uphill battle to argue.
And force Valve to ruin it for the rest of us.
First of all, it’s already implemented this way. You’re the one arguing for an alternative that could increase the number of hackers - if anyone is trying to force valve to ruin it “for the rest of us”, it’s you, since you’re arguing to change the status quo.
Finally, don’t want valve to “ruin” it for you? Don’t use the brand new opt in feature. You have lost absolutely nothing - nothing has been “ruined”.
Humor me here.
My assumption is that steams main goal is to provide paying users with good service by minimizing hackers, and second to that, provide QOL features like family share.
Do you agree with that assumption? If not, what do you think the priorities are?
If you do agree with the assumption, what would you have done differently to accommodate both those priorities and your complaint?
You’re trying to use nice words within your assumption, but one can only assume that yes, this is to minimize hackers. Whether this is a good service, does not belong to that assumption. This service is demolished by the constant need to protect every single aspect against hackers. It’s on par with kernel anticheats. A few cheaters ruin it for the rest of us.
The main priority should be family sharing, which is literally what it’s called. It’s not my job to provide a good service. But I do know when a service is prone to bullshit that’ll just punish people for actually trying to be nice and share stuff within their family.
Valve could have just banned the account that was actually cheating, send a mail to the owner, and let them disable the sharing. Punish after.
So what if a hacker just makes a new account, and adds that to the family and continues ruining the experience of others?
Yeah I’m done talking to you.
So your proposed solution would let hackers make indefinite new accounts and add them as family. Do you see a problem with that?
If not, I hope you’re done talking to me, lol.
How can you be so absolutely stupid?
A well thought out and conveyed response to the concern about hackers. Valve should implement your plan pronto.
God you’re annoying. This is a useless discussion that doesn’t have any power over Valve whatsoever. Nor do I even have to be the one to come up with a plan. I actually even already gave a simple plan and you ignored it.
Your arguments that hackers are more important than a parent with a kid are selfish and stupid. You encounter a hacker online and instead of going “oh well, I’m sure that kid will learn sometime” you go “fuck that hacker!!! boohoo!!! valve fix this omfg!!! boohoo”. And force Valve to ruin it for the rest of us.
Valve has a stupid rule here which should be revised and improved for actual families, instead of trying to babyproof the whole goddamn thing. Parents shouldn’t have to babysit their kid when it comes to videogames. It’s actually bad parent and many teenagers would even choose to cheat just to rebel.
How come these concepts are too high for you to grasp?
People that just complain without a better improvement in mind didn’t actually care to change anything, because they’ve haven’t shown that there’s a reasonable alternative. Those people don’t care if there’s a practical alternative, they’re just upset that it doesn’t meet their specific needs. They just want to “speak to the manager” and complain. “It’s not my job to fix it! Fix it!”. If that’s quote captures your stance, just lmk and it will save us both some time.
I didn’t ignore it, I asked how it would deal with a fundamental enforcement of rules that steam has always done and you’ve ignored that, lol. Are you here to just complain or do you actually want to see if there’s a better way forward? What’s a feasible alternative to handle hackers and provide quality of life improvements like family sharing?
I’d argue that hackers are more important to valve because they implemented VAC bans almost 20 years ago. They just now announced a family sharing feature and you’re pretending that steam was meant to be designed around the family to start, which is an uphill battle to argue.
First of all, it’s already implemented this way. You’re the one arguing for an alternative that could increase the number of hackers - if anyone is trying to force valve to ruin it “for the rest of us”, it’s you, since you’re arguing to change the status quo.
Finally, don’t want valve to “ruin” it for you? Don’t use the brand new opt in feature. You have lost absolutely nothing - nothing has been “ruined”.