Modern consoles with digital games already blur the lines on console generations, but like, very few games are even using the PS5 to max.
PC you can decide your own “generation”, and if you upgrade your PC, you don’t have to buy remakes, you just turn the settings up.
Between that and locking yourself to one entity to buy games from, there’s a lot of downsides to consoles and not many upsides left.
I was always a fan of consoles, everything is packaged nicely and you only had to worry about buying the game itself.
Eventually I ran into the problem where Sony prevented me from starting a DLC I bought and downloaded simply because the base game is validated for a different region. Umm I’m sorry I live in a different country now?? Couldn’t get their AI chatbot to help with refunds either (but honestly shouldn’t they prevent purchasing in the first place…)
Bit the bullet and built a PC instead. Fuck Sony.
Maybe I’m too Canadian to understand but where on earth are you able to build a decent gaming PC able to play the latest AAA games on high graphics for $700?
No really, please tell me. I want to upgrade my PC.
Edit: For everyone trying to explain it to me.
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There’s more to a PC than a CPU and GPU. Those of you giving me only those 2 that make up more than half of the $700 are kind of reinforcing my point.
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The key thing here is running AAA games on high settings using this budget. You can’t really do that.
I think this article is sensationalizing the situation a bit. It could be $700 (if you already have a case, hdds, psu, and cooling on hand.)
But really comes down to your desired resolution and frame rate. I know plenty of people who are fine with 1080p and 60fps.
1440, 2160 120 is another story. The higher end gpu would likely require a slightly higher tier PSU and more efficient cooling which could add a few bucks to the GPU and CPU investment.
I recommend checking out PC part picker to see what your ideal components would shake out to.
(if you already have a case, hdds, psu, and cooling on hand.)
You can also get all of those except the hdds for quite literally 0 dollars, although depending on electricity prices and what upgrading you want to do it might be better long term to spend on the psu.
care to share your source for free PC parts?
Facebook market place unfortunately. Or just walking around on garbage day.
Here’s a case + 500w psu I picked up the other day:
“we have ps5 pro at home”
- ps5 pro at home.
You won’t be able to do ultra, but you can do high at 1080p30fps in most every modern game pretty easily for that price. 1080p 60fps for a solid chunk of them too.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MzFVh3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6coMhaOw0Q
Your point still stands though; you’re still better off spending 1000$ so that you don’t end up shooting yourself in the foot with regards to upgradeability, which is one of the big reasons people want a PC in the first place.
That’s still better than consoles can run most native games too lul. People always use the argument that consoles ‘just work’ at max graphics as a selling point when it’s rarely the case. Almost every new game has issues on release that need to be fixed and even after some never run at max.
Assume someone is already going to buy a Chromebook for $200-300. Why not spend $900-1000 on a nicer laptop or desktop and need a console at all?
And if you’re a certain age, why invest in an ecosystem that will die with the next hardware iteration, when you’ve seen it happen over and over? I bought a cartridge of Super Mario Bros 3 in 1993 with my birthday money. Why should I have to buy it again, ever, if I still own the cart? Why not invest in an ecosystem that’s by and large always backwards compatible?
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But friendly reminder: games are almost always cheaper on PC. Maybe not at first, but very quickly.
It doesn’t really matter as a PC does so much more than play games. It’s like arguing that a Nintendo Switch is cheaper than an a flagship smartphone. Ok, have fun trying to file your taxes, run blender, write code, browse the web, or backup media on your playstation.
The worst part of this for me is that I remember when you could build a PC with better specs than a console for the same price. Now we’re coming back full circle to where that might be possible again, but graphics cards never truly came down from their inflated crypto mining prices. So that means consoles are just getting more expensive and everybody is losing.
Remember when everyone though the PS3 was insane at 599 US dollars?
For context, $599 in 2006 dollars equals $911.41 in 2024
PS1 launched at $299 in September 1995, which would be about $614 right now.
PS2 launched also at $299 in October 2000, which would be about $541 right now.
PS3 launched at $599 in November 2006, which would be about $935 right now.
PS4 launched at $399 in November 2013, which would be about $538 right now.
PS4 Pro launched at $399 in November 2016, which would be about $520 right now.
PS5 Digital launched at $399 in November 2020, which would be about $482 right now.
PS5 Disc launched at $499 in November 2020, which would be about $603 right now.
It’s also worth noting that the launch PS3 also had a whole PS2 inside of it, which partially explains the inflated price point. I say partially since I’m prrety sure that a PS2 slim cost a lot less than $330 in 2006 dollars; they could have just bundled both consoles or offered a rebate on a PS2 purchase and called it a day.
I remember when they announced the first PlayStation right after Sega announced the Saturn was going to be $500 and the Sony dude just came out and said “299” and then bounced.
A gaming GPU has cost as much as a console for a while now.
No one forces you to spend a thousand dollars on a 4090. An RTX 3060 will outperform a PS5 by a big margin, and for under 200 bucks
You’re right, a 4090 costs 2-3 consoles.
Let’s assume the 3060 costs 180 Dollars (no idea what those go for). Add 150 for a decent CPU, 40 for 16 GB of memory. Another 80 for a Mainboard for a total of 180+150+40+80=450 USD. You also need a case, a power supply and mass storage. Your math doesn’t check out, even with the humble specs those Dollars will buy you.
I’m not trying to sell you a console here, far from it. I’m just saying if you want a rig that outperforms a console, it will be in the 4-digits. A mid range GPU alone will be 400-500 nowadays.
Add 150 for a decent CPU, 40 for 16 GB of memory. Another 80 for a Mainboard for a total of 180+150+40+80=450 USD
You could have at least spent 2 minutes looking up prices instead of making stuff up. A Ryzen 5600 is $110 and a compatible motherboard $50. That CPU outperforms the PS5 and Xbox Series X by a big margin
I’m just saying if you want a rig that outperforms a console, it will be in the 4-digits.
No, you don’t. Here is a list that I quickly threw together. It has a much better CPU and GPU than current gen consoles, and 1TB of SSD storage, for “only” $550
Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor $114.83 @ Amazon Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Amazon Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $29.99 @ Newegg Storage TEAMGROUP MS30 1 TB M.2-2280 SATA Solid State Drive $46.99 @ Amazon Video Card Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card $199.97 @ Newegg Case Thermaltake V100 Perforated ATX Mid Tower Case $47.99 @ Best Buy Power Supply EVGA 500 W1 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $47.99 @ Amazon Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $547.75 Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-11 10:35 EDT-0400 That’s a 100 dollars more than a PS5 Digital, though.
Way to move the goal post on your argument.
What are you taking about? Your barebones configuration is a hundred dollars more than the standard PS5 years after its initial release. The PS 5 Pro (subject of your link) promises significantly more power than the original model and costs significantly more. You cannot compare that to your bare bones gaming PC. A gaming PC that promises way more bang than your 5600+6600 combo is significantly more expensive than the PS5 Pro.
Your hastily assembled list will maybe do 1080p60 in more recent games, severely limited by the GPU and its 8GB of VRAM. That was good when I got my 430 EUR Vega 56 back in 2017. Today? Not so great.
Not relevant. Games for consoles are much more optimized because there are just a few configurations.
A PC with similar specs as a console will very likely have worse performance if you compare them.
You also have less ability to mod the games so you lose out on some of those features. For example doing is level FSR like the steam deck.
Absolutely, but pls keep in mind that most people do not mod their games
One reason I mentioned the steam decks FSR feature. Which is a really cool example of this to me. Of wise spread automatic modding making every game that can run on the system potentially better with no additional effort from the dev.
There are console comparable to RX 6600 that costs 200$/€?
I’ve been looking for an excuse to switch to pc.
Paying $700 for a locked system is crazy.
Well, it is a gradient
Consoles are only a few rungs further down on the freedom ladder than a Windows PC. Both are somewhere near the bottom.
Steam Deck all the way. Also Sony’s been shit since at least the 2011 hack.
You can also get PC games from all kinds of sources and sales that ultimately are far cheaper than the pithy Playstation sales. It greatly offsets costs over time.
You also have far more backwards compatibility and flexibility especially to do things with controller profiles and mods, etc.
Not to mention in 5 years you can replace one part on the pc and increase performance.
You don’t need to upgrade every part every time
While this is technically true, in practice I’ve found there’s always something the old PC is missing, tech wise.
Socket change. Ram version change. New version of PCIe.
Effectively you need to do mobo/cpu/ram all together.
The only other components are GPU and storage, which I agree are generally transferable, but depending on age you may want to upgrade too.
I guess PSU but that is thankfully something you almost never need to upgrade, unless your new GPU sucks down a lot more watts.
Maybe if I had an AM5 board I would be in a better state, but currently on AM4 so my upgrade paths are limited (already on a 5000 series chip).
I’m just going to hang out over here with my (modded) PC games from the early 2000s that I love so much…
Modern AAA gaming is not for me.
I enjoy a AAA now and then but console prices are definitely not for me.
You can’t even get probably the equivalent graphics card in there for less than $700. I still think PCs are more expensive.
You can get a comparable GPU for $400 used (rx 6900 xt) and still have $300 for everything else.
Thinking is but a step on the path to knowing.
Does it have to be equivalent? There are plenty of builds that will work just fine for gaming, they just aren’t 1440p or 4k, or 120hz.
There’s also that these computers can do a lot more than just game, so while you’re not getting “top of the line” graphical fidelity from your console, you can actually use it to browse the web, or run some software in your home.
Then there’s also the fact that if you want to play online it requires you pay a subscription. So even just the $10 a month for the subscription is $120 a year for every year you didn’t buy a PC instead.
So, are PC’s really more expensive, or is it the fallacy of needing the absolute best and then paying out the nose in after-ownership fees for the entire duration you own the console?
Why would I buy a digital only console for 700 usd? My pc is digital only. The only reason I even buy consoles is physical games, but Sony wants to stop giving that option.
No problem, you can put a disc drive in it for a mere $80 more!
