The last straw with consoles for me was when they all started charging money regularly just to play online multiplayer games.
My Steam Deck makes for a better console-like experience than any of the major consoles, and more. I have zero interest in going back to Sony or especially Nintendo’s scams.
It blows my mind that the greatest trick Valve ever pulled was releasing a console that relies solely on backwards compatibility. There are zero games released for the steam deck.
To be fair, there was 1 game released directly for the Steam Deck; Aperture Desk Job.
Not only that, the Steam Deck actually has worse compatibility compared to a normal Windows PC, but the PC library is so extensive (and has so many emulators) that it doesn’t matter. You still have access to more games than anyone on a normal console ever could, and you can play most singleplayer console games for free. I played Mario Odyssey all the way through on my PC and it ran great.
And even better: people not valve will actually go and work to make the games that aren’t compatible working. For free.
It’s not quite strictly worse; some older games are easier to run in wine than natively. But your point still stands.
I really wish they would release a new Steam Controller with the Deck’s inputs.
Same, tired of replacing the bumpers on my Xbox controllers, and want the extensibility I’ve seen with the decks controller layout.
I’d happily pay for Steam because it provides a good service. Meanwhile, PSN and Nintendo Switch Online suck and are expensive (PSN is 70€ per year lmao).
Nah I’m not paying for steam either, they make enough money from game sales without double dipping
Honestly don’t know what they thought was going to happen. They’ve had some misfires lately with the PS5 Pro not being needed at all (the PS5 is a decent bit of kit, and certainly capable of handling everything this gen can throw at it), selling a remote access tablet/controller that doesn’t connect to their own cloud service, and even they’ve stopped talking about Concord.
I could buy a steam deck and a shitload of games on sale for that
That’s what I did when my PC died and I’d do it again given the choice
Personally I decided about 6 years ago that I wouldn’t buy another non-portable game console.
At this stage I just don’t see any reason to drop $600+ on a console when I could put that $600~ towards upgrading my PC and get vastly more value for my money.
So as far as I’m concerned, the only consoles worth looking at at all right now at the Nintendo Switch, which I have and love, and the Steam Deck, which would offer me my PC gaming experience with something it lacks: portability.
Aside from that, I personally couldn’t give 2 shits what’s happening in the world of XBox or Playstation these days.
Plus us patient gamers can enjoy those PS “exclusives” when they release on PC.
Yeah exactly. Crazy thing is a good game is just as good 3, 4 years later as it is on release day. What a novel idea, right?
There was a time where the fact that launch meant a high player count, big community energy, and lack of hyper-optimized strategies minmaxxing the fun out of a game was sufficient reason to get it at launch.
But given how often modern launches are bungled, even that is not always true
Yeah I should have clarified that for multiplayer games, especially lobby-style instead of persistent-world style, all of this changes because how active and engaged the playerbase is a HUGE component.
But I’m a solo player 90% of the time, so that particular aspect, while important, doesn’t really pertain to me.
Even big singleplayer games can be fun. I liked being involved in the early days of BG3’s release, for example. But then again, no mans sky and cyberpunk sucked
I love how Sony learned nothing from the PS3 launch price.
The launch PS3 was arguably Sony’s last great console (namely hardware backwards compatibility); I choose to die on this hill. 🫡
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The primary reason was that sony wanted to take advantage of lower import taxes in the EU by classifying it as a general-purpose computer. Thats why they also abandoned OtherOS after the EU ruled that the PS3 was not a computer but a game console.
Yup, that was something Sony was already doing back with the PS2, you could have Linux for PS2
You didn’t need a subscription to play games online.
Honestly, Sony really sees itself as a premium(ish) brand that puts a heavy emphasis on novelty with a bit of sophistication thrown in. They also see Nintendo as a kid’s toy company. So, the expense (and some of the scarcity) is entirely the point.
You can buy 4 used switches, chip them, and buy accessories for them with 700$ available
Buy 4 switches Cluster them into a super computer Emulate Ps5 … Profit!
You can actually lan 16 switches together for Mario kart.
They could have given us full backwards compatibility for that.
It would be an instant buy for me if it has full backwards compatibility, and I’d let them tack on another hundo for psp/vita games. That’s basically what my Steam deck is. Every console emulated and PC games.
Why would you need 3 switches when you could get a 1.5km line of loafs of bread with that money?
Do you get cheaper bread meters going for the cheaper mass produced loaves or by going for the longer length but more artisan breads like baguettes? Or maybe bread sticks?
Also, does anyone make linked bread (like sausages), to increase the speed one can deploy it in a straight line?
Im pretty sure the extra lenght of baguettes is not enough to justify paying the extra price for them
To solve the time problem of placing all the bread in a line, you could try to start a cult. It takes a while to set up, but will save you time(and money) in the long run
Mechanical Keyboard Community:
“I need to see these $233 switches!” (Drools)
Realistically, how much VRAM can you obtain for $699 after all the other parts?
you can build a 7600XT setup for around $700, so I’d expect 16GB… which it has? I reckon you can build PS5 pro matching system now for 800 - 900 dollhairs, but that’ll change when the next gen gpus launch.
Since you’re too lazy to make your own argument, here.
Buying New (Because theres no true bottom to used PC Parts):
GPU - 7600XT Fighter - $330 USD
MB - ASRock B450 - $90
CPU - Ryzen 5 2400G - $135
SSD - Kingston NV2 - $60
PSU - MSI MAG A650BN (Bronze) - $65
Oops, only $19 for RAM, a case, and peripherals…
Time to get schwifty and shit on the floor.
newegg prices
XFX 7600XT $320
Ryzen 5 5600 $115
Asus B450 $70
MSI Gungnir case $90
EVGA 650w PSU $65
1TB nvme $57
cart total $696.78
RAM?
32 bucks for 16gb ddr4 3200 cl16, included in the cart total
No, it isnt
Your list with the ram included is 749
Genuine question, could you make a PC that can perform as well as the PS5 Pro for $700?
I’ve built many computers for work over the years, but never my own gaming PC. I’m starting to plan one and I have no idea what I do and do not need, performance-wise. Like, I know I don’t need a 4090, but how cheap is too cheap to get good performance?
The real trick is to find a friend that’s a PC gamer and casually mention that you’re considering building a PC. It is out of your hands at that point. The call will go out and spread like the fires of Gondor to everyone they know on Discord. Slowly but surely, used parts will begin to trickle in from others who have recently upgraded their PCs and have pieces they no longer need. A case here. Some old RAM there. A 3-4 year old GPU. Peripherals.
Like hermit crabs changing shells, their old equipment will be passed down to you; the newest convert. Eventually you will have nearly all the pieces needed for a good mid-range gaming PC, to the point where you might as well just get the last few parts to finish it. And then your journey will be complete.
As the years go by and you slowly upgrade your PC like a modern day Ship of Thebes, make sure to save all your old equipment. For there will come a time when you will hear those fateful words, “Hey, my friend is thinking about building a computer…” And the cycle shall begin anew.
… can you actually make a PC with comparable performance these days? What does a console-level GPU cost these days?
You have to consider the versatility of a pc to truly compare them. The pc will have better alternative uses like web browsing, the pc is very easy and fairly cheap to increase storage, you may be able to upgrade just some RAM or GPU to keep up rather than buying a new console. You’ll also have access to more games and more modding opourtunities. You can still use a controller on pc although you are often at a disadvantage in most FPS style games.
If you just want to game a console may be better or easier but overall a pc is usually the better investment in the long run.
Many people already have a laptop and want to build a PC specifically for gaming, though. Upgrading isn’t all it’s cracked up to be IMO, it’s definitely nice to have but a console lasts the entire console generation (5 years give or take?) if you ignore then mid-gen upgrade which is usually entirely optional.
Maybe this is a local popularity thing or in your immediate sphere, but most people i know dont have a laptop, in fact its actually quite rare. The people i know only have a laptop if its a work device and otherwise either have a PC for gaming/hobbies or just use a phone/tablet for their needs
My pc lasted over 10 years without a GPU or CPU upgrade. Now it doesn’t keep up with AAA titles but there are still plenty of games, old and new, that I can play.
That’s cool, but most people want to keep playing current AAA games.
What would make you think that a PC wouldn’t also be able to do this for longer? Lol.
