Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Russia unleashed an unprecedented bombardment in southern Ukraine overnight in what local officials described as a “massive attack” in the conflict which has continued to rage even as the international community’s attention has moved to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

The Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry on Monday morning said Russia dropped at least “87 aerial bombs on populated areas of the Kherson region - the largest number for all time.” At least eight people were also injured in other Russian strikes carried out in the Odessa region further to the west on Sunday night.

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    Wow…

    Can you give a single example of a genocide you acknowledged happened?

    Not as a “gotcha” I’m legitimately still trying to help you understand this, you mod some serious subs and unfortunately genocide is something you should understand in 2023.

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      Current events in Rohingya I’d classify as genocide. Uyghur falls within the definition of genocide as does Darfur in 2003, Congo in 2002, Zaire in 96 and absolutely Rwanda in 94.

      In the modern day United States the largest genocide is never talked about, the California Genocide against the Chumash. The population of 4,500 was completely enslaved and killed. By 1900 only 200 Chumash were alive (today the population has increased to 5,000).

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        Current events in Rohingya I’d classify as genocide

        We’ll go with the first.

        In August 2017, a deadly crackdown by Myanmar’s army on Rohingya Muslims sent hundreds of thousands fleeing across the border into Bangladesh.

        They risked everything to escape by sea or on foot a military offensive which the United Nations later described as a “textbook example of ethnic cleansing”.

        In January 2020, the UN’s top court ordered the Buddhist-majority country to take measures to protect members of its Rohingya community from genocide.

        But the army in Myanmar (formerly Burma) has said it was fighting Rohingya militants and denies targeting civilians. The country’s leader Aung San Suu Kyi, once a human rights icon, has repeatedly denied allegations of genocide.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41566561

        So, Myanmar claimed they were targeting terrorists, but there was lots of civilians deaths which caused noncombatants to flee their homes or risk being killed… Which meets the Geneva Conventions definition of genocide as it’s ethnic cleansing.

        To me, that sounds like what’s going on in Gaza.

        Can we talk about how you feel these are different?

        I legitimately want to work through this, but I might not be replying as fast as this morning.

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            First reports are always wrong

            What does that mean?

            If a woman reports her own rape, it never happened? Because she’s the first to report it?

            And why do you think the UN was the first to report?

            They’re an international organization of multiple governments. They don’t make these reports off hand, the quote talks about things from 2017 in 2020, that’s three years later, how is that a “first report”?

            Are you saying you’ve changed your mind now and Rohingya isn’t a genocide?

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              It means the first report of anything is always wrong. Details, time of events, witnesses, what actually happened is always wrong when first reported. Generally everything you hear in the first report is wrong and you should always wait until details become clear.

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                But you said that about a 2020 article talking about a genocide that started in 2017…

                Is three years not enough time for details to become clear?

                If that’s true, today is 11/6, about a month after 10/7, why do you already have such solid opinions on that?

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                    Which is what the government commiting the genocide said…

                    But that’s not the point. The point is the reason it’s a genocide, is the same thing Israel is doing.

                    Are you trying to make the case that no one should believe Israels initial claim that everyone they kill is justified by terrorism? Because that’s where your logic is going, but that’s the opposite position you’ve had this entire thread.